Son in law went to visit his Mother with the children. The lads managed to lock the keys in the boot (hatchback) with all other doors locked also.
Had to take Mothers car home and next morning rang his Insurance company who agreed he could use the breakdown service given with the Insurance but would not be liable for self inflicted damage!,
The breakdown man duly arrived and told John he was lucky that he only had electric windows at the front. He used an inflating bag in the joint of the rear door and used a special tool to wind down the window.
Asked what he would have done if there were electric rear windows he said its extremely difficult and can go wrong. The wires are in a welded box underneath the car and they have to drill through this and find the right cable. The danger is its easy to drill into other wires causing severe damage. He did explain what they did if they found the right wire but I won?t go into this.
The general gist of it is that he says with many modern cars its extremely difficult to get into them so don?t give the kids the keys to go and get something out of the boot..........
|
Fond memories...
|
|
See my post a few weeks back when a house visitor also did this to his Mundano. Never mind; I was happy to use the excuse of collecting his spare keys for a Cotswolds evening ride on the motorbike!
|
|
|
|
i did the same on a cavalier a few years ago and although i am not going to say how i got in lets just say no damage was done and it took only 5 minutes of head scratching to suss an answer.
|
i did the same on a cavalier a few years ago and although i am not going to say how i got in lets just say no damage was done and it took only 5 minutes of head scratching to suss an answer.
Fetched the spare key?
|
|
|
|
|
Daughter did the same thing with our (late, squashed) mondeo. Called Rescue who said no problem. Had to sign a waiver in case there was any damage to the alarm system.
Was very surprised how easy it was to get into car! He then had to use key to turn off alarm. As he said - no problem.
|
It was interesting to see some of the toerags, in Eddie Jordan's program , showing their approach,
|
It was interesting to see some of the toerags, in Eddie Jordan's program, showing their approach....
Interesting? More like damn right irresponsible.
|
|
|
|
Get the key code and remember it. It is in the form Tnnnnnn.
With that code any half decent motor man can get a " Tibbe" key cut and save you all that hassle.
Then you can also get a cheap key cut or a proper spare while you are at it.
I am about to get an additional remote key cut.
On Ebay today
£7 for a basic key
£13 for a transponder key
IIRC about £25 for full remote
|
|
|
|
|
Ok, i lied, sorry, a locksmith person did it, but they did the same thing that I described.
|
Locked keys in the boot of a hire car once. Around mid 1996 probably. It was a Honda Accord of the time - same basis for the Rover 600 series.
Went to put something in the boot and thought: "don't need these house keys for my mum's" so put them in the boot and thought nothing of it. A while later looked at the keys I had and realised I'd put the wrong set of keys in the bag!
|
|
|
|
Typical Ford penny-pinching isn't it. I think the only cars we've ever had where it was possible to lock the keys inside were the Kas that SWMBO and daughter had. Great cars otherwise, but how much did they really save by not having a separate button to open the hatchback or boot?
Surely modern bigger Fords with remote plippers must have a separate button now?
|
Typical Ford penny-pinching isn't it. ............... Surely modern bigger Fords with remote plippers must have a separate button now?
Penny pinching? it is actually quite a sophisticated locking system with global closing for the windows and, if fitted, sunroof, remote opening of the boot and an internal boot opening button that is disabled if the doors are locked.
Locking the keys in the boots is not easy to do on a Mondeo, I guess rather than unlocking the car they must have pushed the "boot open" button on the remote while the car was otherwise locked, this opens the boot only without unlocking the doors (so the button/switch on the boot lid remains disabled), and then shut the boot with the keys inside. Really not that easy to do.
|
Sounds quite easy!
Wife's (now insurance company's) A2 had a boot unlock and double locking so you could lock the keys in that in the same way.
Glad my bood doesn't open without unlocking the car and the car won't lock with something open.
Simplest is normally best.
|
|
|
|
>>Surely modern bigger Fords with remote plippers must have a separate button now?<<
My N reg Fiesta had one Avant!
When mine locked itself, the bloke used a method already described on here but didn't use the boot button to get in. Might have been because the er.....engine was running.
|
No offence to anyone, but I have just removed all reference of how to break into cars.
Yes, I know the toerags already know how to do it, but it's the ones who don't yet know how to that I am concerned about.
By all means continue discussion, but refrain from the actual method of how or what to use to break into a car.
Thanks, DD.
|
|
Mine was hardly high-tec, but I take your point DD. Fair enough.
|
Someone I know had his keys locked into an Audi A6 by his mother in law. It was the A6 from two model changes ago.
He asked her to lock the car which she did pressing the remote button to globally close all windows and sunroof etc. As the sun roof was closing she then proceeded to throw the keys in the car. Now that is what I call stupid.
|
Many moons ago I was an AA man. Probably one of the youngest around. Naturally I used to get countless calls for 'lock ins' but the funniest one was a Vauxhall Senator (MK2 - the rounder model) on a housing estate. The police had had a go and in fact they were still there - about 5 other police cars with them all standing around laughing and teasing the driver. Why? Because the Senator too was a police car with full markings. I still insisted we went through the whole procedure of asking them what was in the glove box to prove it was theirs. More laughs for his colleagues.
In fact to be honest the police were useless at getting into cars. Many times I'd turn up and there was the car (quite often with engine running and a small child inside) with a policeman trying his best with a coathanger. Normally seconds after my arrival the car was opened. I still have my homemade tools (not a coathanger in sight) for breakins. Not used for years and probably not much use on todays cars.
|
|
An AA man got into my Escort whose lock barrels had all expired. He used three tools, one of them an inflatable pad, and did no damage worth mentioning. But I won't say what he did because this will then become a blank post.
|
I did exactly the same thing in a 2001 Xsara - opened the boot using the boot button, put keys in the boot, loaded shopping on top and shut the boot! Fortunately I was only about 4 miles from home and a friend brought me the spare key.
I changed it for a 2002 model later on and found the boot button also opened all the doors if they were locked to stop this happening. I have always been consious that its still possible to do on my Mondeo.
|
Just a comment about people who may be tempted to force their way in.
Hopefully this will not get removed because it is a safety item!
DO NOT FORCE ANYTHING INTO DOOR/WINDOWS if side airbags are fitted.
Have heard of a close miss of a mechanic who narrowly missed having his head taken off with a bar when the bags went off and ejected it. WAY TOO CLOSE!
This post may have to be removed now i have reread it but the safety message is important ????
|
When I was a grocery rep many years ago, I used to lock my keys in my car with such monotonous frequency that I kept a piece of...well, stuff..in my sample case. It used to take me about ten seconds to get back into my Montego (oooOOOohhh, you're all jealous that I had such a glorious motor).
I was NEVER (in probably twenty occurrences) asked what I was doing.
V
|
This post may have to be removed ....
No problems yorkiebar. You haven't gone into enough detail for a would be toerag to learn anything.
DD.
|
|
You can buy a thin Ford key that folds up into a credit card size and fits in your wallet. I used to have one in case I locked my keys in. The one I got wouldn't start the car but would open it and if I was a long way from home (as in on holiday etc), I would hide a spare fob key inside the car in case I lost the main key, so I could get in with the credit card key and use the spare to drive it.
|
Can anyone define 'Toerag'?
I'm nearly seventy,and in all my life it was always Tow rag.Apiece of cloth/Rag tied to the middle of a rope or chain connecting the towed vehicle to
the towing vehicle,to warn others of the ropes existence.
Who would wear a piece of rag on their toe? Even years ago we could a 2d.bandage!
|
|
One of the great things about the keyless entry system on my car is that it is impossible to lock the keys inside. The other day I got out of the car and tried to lock the car by pressing the button on the door handle. But nothing happened. I thought the elcetrics had gone wrong (it's a french car afterall) and then I realised I had left the card inside the car. Doh!
|
Toerag: Slang for someone unpleasant. Seems to derive from cloth bindings worn on the feet of tramps, convicts, beggars etc. Harold Pinter uses the word in The Caretaker.
V
|
Toerag: Slang for someone unpleasant. Seems to derive from cloth bindings worn on the feet of tramps, convicts, beggars etc. Harold Pinter uses the word in The Caretaker. V
Isn't it rhyming slang?
|
Thanks for that Vin.Ican understand the derivation of the word.I would have thought it belonged to Dickensian times,Hardy et al.
I have only seen it used in modern parlance.
I'll leave it at that,it's losing losing it's motoring connection now.
|
>> This post may have to be removed .... No problems yorkiebar. You haven't gone into enough detail for a would be toerag to learn anything. DD.
Indeed he may have alarmed them dd...
|
On more than one occasion I locked my keys in a Nova saloon, so I took to keeping ......... in my wallet to break in. I too never got asked what I was doing whilst breaking in, and neither did the toerag that broke into it and tried to steel it when half the distributor was lying in the footwell, in broad daylight.
Thinking about it now, that car was so rusty I could have put my arm through the bottom of the drivers door to get the keys.
|
"Thinking about it now, that car was so rusty I could have put my arm through the bottom of the drivers door to get the keys."
Funny thing with Novas was they all rusted in exactly the same places - door bottoms/corners, rear of the front wings & in front of the rear wheel arches - as if the "robot" couldn't be bothered to squirt any rustproofing wax in those areas on everyone they produced.
|
Yes mine was rusty in all those places and more. Worst of all was the bottom of the battery tray where it joins to the main bulkhead had gone completly, oh and the front crossmember. It was quick for a 1.0l, probably because so many bits had fallen off it was extremely lightweight.
Back on topic, they were so bad on security, possibly one of the easiest cars to steal, takes 1 second to switch the ignition on without the keys, then you just have to push start it.
Thankfully security is much better now, although far from perfect, just a bother if you lock your keys in.
|
|
|
|
