http://www.honestjohn.co.uk Honest John forum en-gb Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 Copyright: (C) www.honestjohn.co.uk 5 hjforum925976 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 16:39:29 +0000 That's an interesting view. What have they been "caught" doing? There is a dual carriageway by-pass near me, that looks a dead cert to be 40mph, but it's 30mph. By your logic I shouldn't be prosecuted for doing more than 30mph. Don't think I'll put your theory to the test though. Discussion Nsar Discussion http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925976&v=e http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925976&v=e hjforum925975 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 16:34:15 +0000 Indeed you would need to be there to know! But in my defence I would say that I am above average trained, being a class 1 hgv holder, full bike licence holder and was also trained as a driving assessor to advanced driving standards. So whilst I fully admit I am not perfect by any stretch of the imagination, I am very aware of what is going on around me, so for me to have to brake heavily meant he did something I really was not expecting by any stretch of the imagination! Discussion R75 Discussion http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925975&v=e http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925975&v=e hjforum925974 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 16:33:33 +0000 ESC/ESP as a legal requirement. I knew I'd seen it said somewhere. "The European Commission has confirmed a proposal for the mandatory introduction of ESC on all new cars and commercial vehicle models sold in the EU from 2012, with all new cars being equipped by 2014" Thank to Wiki. Discussion Pugugly Discussion http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925974&v=e http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925974&v=e hjforum925973 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 16:32:47 +0000 OK, My local garage (non-Ford) has been trying to sort out a problem on my TDCi Focus - namely glow-plug light coming on/engine cutting out. The fault codes are p1200 - injector/wiring/ecu, and p0251, wiring/injector pump/ecu. They have tested the Turbo - OK, injectors, again OK, and pump, ok. Also wiring & hoses OK, but a bit warn - done 190k. So, any ideas anyone! What has happened now since being in the garage was what looked like an oil leak (under engine), but checking the dip-stick all OK, so seems to be when engine on. Could they have not re-connected something related to the injectors properly, or would the engine then just die? Back to garage on Monday but am thinking of going to Ford! Only other thing I can find is the possibility of a faulty sensor on the throttle switch? Help! Technical matters arnold2 Technical matters http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925973&v=e http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925973&v=e hjforum925972 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 16:19:48 +0000 AFAICS, this is a legal technicality. It seems that the road looked to the driver like any other 30mph road, so an observant driver would have slowed down. It's disappointing that the council screwed up its order, but it doesn't give me much sympathy for any drivers caught. They will now be lucky enough to get off, but I can't see that they have grounds to regard their escape as anything other than a lucky bonus. Discussion NowWheels Discussion http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925972&v=e http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925972&v=e hjforum925971 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 16:16:10 +0000 Wish they could show same efficiency to catch real criminals. They do - daily. Discussion Pugugly Discussion http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925971&v=e http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925971&v=e hjforum925970 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 16:14:08 +0000 In the hope that some senior car company executives read this I know that we buyers always want more and more for less and less … but, you very nice, very helpful people, this would be a way to improve customer service / satisfaction pretty cheaply. With apologies to any firms that are already doing this - in recent years I have only really looked at Ford and Fiat user handbooks - Please only put into the handboook the stuff for the car in question If I’ve got a petrol 1.6 with such and such tyres and dashboard don’t make me look at two dashboard layouts, three specifications of engine oil, five sizes of tyres. Spare me a lecture on diesel technicalities and the stuff about how to get at the spare wheel on the estate. Don’t make me have to flick through the bit about how the cabriolet roof works. I don't want to examine all the car entertainment options for the small details that distinguish mine. Cars are filling up with such a lot of kit that we can do without extra hassle. If I do later buy an mp3 player, a satnav or some fancier wheels off you, supply inserts for the manual with them at the time. It would be a bit of fuss to sort this, but it shouldn’t be that hard in this age of bar codes and databases, where everything is computerised already. As well as user satisfaction it would save on some paper to help your green PR. And add to safety - I don’t want to shock you but I suspect that there are people out there who haven’t taken in every detail of their car’s handbook - make it easier for them. Discussion ralph278 Discussion http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925970&v=e http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925970&v=e hjforum925969 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 16:09:58 +0000 Post this on www.vwaudiforum.co.uk It the correct section and in the A6 section. Regards Peter Technical matters Peter D Technical matters http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925969&v=e http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925969&v=e hjforum925968 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 16:04:07 +0000 >> the 6 letter expletive to describe R75's driving (mimser). ;-) You misjudge me jbif. From R75's account he wasn't mimsing but driving at the legal limit without a queue of eager beavers behind him. That seems OK to me. It is economical motorway driving. Of course people who hog the outer lane when others want to get past are another matter. The only doubtful area is his claim that he was forced to brake sharply by the other car. He may have been of course. On the other hand one often sees people overreacting to other drivers in a Double-Take Brothers sort of way. I see no reason to suppose R75 was doing that though. One would have to be there to know. Discussion Lud Discussion http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925968&v=e http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925968&v=e hjforum925967 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 16:01:14 +0000 Yep the Motronic Engine Management Unit is in the plenum chamber electronics box. Regards Peter Technical matters Peter D Technical matters http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925967&v=e http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925967&v=e hjforum925966 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 15:58:53 +0000 I'm laying it up for the winter in the garage. Is there anything I can coat the discs with to stop them rusting? I remember many years ago I bought a carcoon for the bike. It never worked by the way - corrosion and mould everythwere. But anyway, with it came an aerosol of rust prevention stuff, and on the label it said can be used on brake discs without affecting anything when it came to driving it again. Anyone know what it was, or what I can use instead? Discussion Dave N Discussion http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925966&v=e http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925966&v=e hjforum925965 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 15:50:24 +0000 LOL Spood! One reason I avoid the ready mix is that it is expensive for a high %age of water - a bit like 37.5% proof spirits! I haven't checked to what temp readymix might prevent freezing. There are parts of the Highlands where it might not work, perhaps! Discussion Armitage Shanks {p} Discussion http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925965&v=e http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925965&v=e hjforum925964 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 15:45:47 +0000 >> Legislated or potentially legislated additions to modern motors are a disaster zone and simply lead >> to more expensive failures. I think that may be a little simplistic. Catalytic converters seem to be reasonably robust, and they were adopted on a widescale due to legislation in the USA in the late 70s and early 80s, followed by later EU rules (early 90s, IIRC). ABS is AFAIK a legal requirement nowadays, but it seems to be fairly reliable. However, both of those technologies were in use for a long time before becoming compulsory: catalytic converters were invented in 1950, and ABS was deployed selectively for about 15 years before becoming universal. I was going to suggest that maybe the successful technologies were those which were rolled out slowly, being debugged through experience in small market segments and going through several iterations before hitting the mass market. Many of the things we now take for granted on cars followed that path, such as heated rear windows, dual-circuit brakes, windscreen wipers, cooling-system-powered heaters, aircon, seatbelts, radial tyres and electric turn indicators. (My father's first car, a 1948 model, had wipers, but nothing else on the list). However, ESP seems to contradict that, because we don't yet have any legal requirements in force for its fitting, but it's on your list of problematic technologies. Could it be that the market is also capable of pushing makers to deploy inadequately-developed technologies? Common-rail diesels seem to be an example of a market-driven failure, not a legislated one -- VW only adopted CR diesels very recently, so they haven't been essential as a way of meeting emission regs, yet they still have reliability problems. In general, I prefer legislation which sets goals to be achieved rather than requiring specific solutions. It's notable that the current pressure for low emissions is being met by a whole variety of techniques, including stop-start engines, improved aerodynamics, tweaked engine management, lighter structures, etc. However in some cases, legislation which seeks big improvements seems to produce complex solutions rather than better design. The current pressure on C02 emissions is producing some good results (e.g. lighter and more aerodynamic car bodies), but also some messier ones such as hybrid powertrains, the stop/start devices (risks nasty engine wear), lower ride heights (which increases the risk of underbody damage), and highly-stressed supercharged engines. It'll be interesting to see how this sort of issue plays out in time. Will we see makers backing away from complex solutions such as those, and instead use composite materials to reduce the weight of vehicles? Discussion NowWheels Discussion http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925964&v=e http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925964&v=e hjforum925963 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 15:38:48 +0000 I've just put in the ready mixed Halfords combo. Works a treat. Bet we're in for a cold winter this time, so be prepared. Better tuck that pony away in its stable of straw AS ;-) Discussion spood Discussion http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925963&v=e http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925963&v=e hjforum925962 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 15:34:50 +0000 Just in case its an intimidating imposter, you should report it. Discussion spood Discussion http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925962&v=e http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925962&v=e hjforum925961 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 15:28:48 +0000 I feel sorry for Frederick, but as far as I can tell he's shelled out everything for the car so far. In that case it's been his car and, if it were me, I'd have checked it was getting serviced or had it done myself. Discussion Optimist Discussion http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925961&v=e http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925961&v=e hjforum925960 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 15:23:10 +0000 It is located on the rear axle beam.Probably failed mot on broken or missing return spring.This part cannot be bought seperately from dealer,but I am sure an alternative could be found.hth Technical matters elekie&a/c doctor Technical matters http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925960&v=e http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925960&v=e hjforum925959 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 15:22:23 +0000 In 5 years time I think there will be more hybrids. Hybrid drive might take over from the torque-converter epicyclic gearbox as the preferred form of two-pedal motoring. Also more pure electric cars and, in particular, electric delivery vans in large conurbations. As for legal requirents..... I'm a fan of daytime running lights although our old bangers don't have them. The Mark 6 VW Golf looks cool with its DRLs on, though that couldn't be said of the old Volvo ones! I can also see cars being fitted with speed limiters in the way that LGVs and coaches are now. Discussion Sofa Spud Discussion http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925959&v=e http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925959&v=e hjforum925958 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 15:21:29 +0000 Interesting story. IIRC the bloke was already on six points with an alcohol conviction and facing another charge for failing to provide a driver's name on another occasion. Presumably the Speed Camera Partnership (I love that title) just sent out the NIP to the lady named and it was when she kicked up that the police began to think about perverting the course of justice etc. 63 in a 40 limit is just asking to get done, though, isn't it? Discussion Optimist Discussion http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925958&v=e http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925958&v=e hjforum925957 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 15:21:24 +0000 Hi DD any chance you can send me the info on getting around the immobliser as i have broken one of the buttons off the remote. So the car is stuck on the drive and i am gettin ear ache from the Mrs. Thanks Alex Technical matters alex.kh Technical matters http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925957&v=e http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925957&v=e hjforum925956 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 14:59:38 +0000 Amazing what police can do to prosecute someone for speeding. Wish they could show same efficiency to catch real criminals. PS: Not condoning speeding though. Discussion movilogo Discussion http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925956&v=e http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925956&v=e hjforum925955 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 14:58:48 +0000 >> That nice warm feeling didn't last long did it? >> Just wait until Lud uses the 6 letter expletive to describe R75's driving (mimser). ;-) Lane 3 was clear enough for the IPO to disappear at 90mph, and it is meant for driving at 90, isn't it? Discussion jbif Discussion http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925955&v=e http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925955&v=e hjforum925954 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 14:57:45 +0000 An RAC man once told me [quite recent] that they can bypass immobiliser in many cars [barring most modern ones]. So, I think for any X reg car, it will be possible. Discussion movilogo Discussion http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925954&v=e http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925954&v=e hjforum925953 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 14:56:54 +0000 Hi Can anyone tell me where the brake load sensing valve linkage is located as it has failed the MOT on it. Thanks Roy Technical matters Kizzy Technical matters http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925953&v=e http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925953&v=e hjforum925952 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 14:51:44 +0000 Depending on age, immobilisers are built in to the whole vehicle electrics rather than an obvious addon box. Some even need a hugely expensive ECU replacement if the master key is lost. I wouldn't be happy if it could be easily bypassed with fiddling with a relay. Discussion martint123 Discussion http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925952&v=e http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925952&v=e hjforum925951 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 14:47:49 +0000 I've just put my Micra through the MOT - the HC was near the 200 PPM limit. All the other emissions figures were well withing limits. Does anyone know what caused the high HC PPM? Can it be fixed or should I start looking for another car when the next MOT approaches? Technical matters Chris S Technical matters http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925951&v=e http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925951&v=e hjforum925950 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 14:43:34 +0000 >> And maybe his flying licence! >> I would have thought that would have been under threat from his drink driving conviction. Hardly suitable transport history for an air ambulance driver. Discussion martint123 Discussion http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925950&v=e http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925950&v=e hjforum925949 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 14:40:53 +0000 Who was it who said 'never lend your car to anyone to whom you have given birth'? It's true anyway. Get him on the road independently asap. Yes, my son - who is now a far better driver than I - once wrote off my car... Discussion mike hannon Discussion http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925949&v=e http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925949&v=e hjforum925948 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 14:39:05 +0000 http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?f=2&t=79876. That nice warm feeling didn't last long did it? Discussion Armitage Shanks {p} Discussion http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925948&v=e http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925948&v=e hjforum925947 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 14:34:33 +0000 I have to say I use the Halfords concentrate on their 3 for 2 offer. I can't imagine why people buy the ready mix - it is only a bit cheaper than the concentrate. I use about 1 in 20 before it gets cold and then up to 1 in 4 in the winter. Discussion Armitage Shanks {p} Discussion http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925947&v=e http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925947&v=e hjforum925946 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 14:33:31 +0000 just for update, new fuel filler cap sensor has been fitted and ECU resetted but P2408 fault appeared again which is totally confused me. will go for peugeot planet scan today Technical matters Artur99 Technical matters http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925946&v=e http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925946&v=e hjforum925945 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 14:27:51 +0000 >> I ... was actually overtaking a line of traffic at the time, they were doing about 60mph, so plenty fast enough, also, no one was behind me!!! >> 1. Yet the "impersonating Police Officer" was able to get ahead of the line of traffic to get in fron of you! 2. You had no one behind you! 3. middle lane hoggers were doing 60, while your speed was 70 or so. Classic lane 3 hog, methinks. ;-) Discussion jbif Discussion http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925945&v=e http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925945&v=e hjforum925944 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 14:27:12 +0000 Whatever you use for washer anti freeze try and get into Lidl's when they've got W5 concentrated screenwash in stock. A capful in your washer bottle will see the end of those smeary screens we so hate. As an aside i make a bucketful up and wash the house windows (after doing the car screen proper like) with it using the car washing brush, a quick rinse off followed by squeeqee and they come up sparkling like new...as usual with Lidl's stuff it's good. Discussion gordonbennet Discussion http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925944&v=e http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925944&v=e hjforum925943 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 14:18:47 +0000 And maybe his flying licence! Discussion Armitage Shanks {p} Discussion http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925943&v=e http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925943&v=e hjforum925942 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 14:14:18 +0000 A small amount of methylated spirit or isopropyl alcohol added to the solution will help stop it freezing. Then add whatever detergent you like. Fairy liquid, etc. Discussion Dynamic Dave Discussion http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925942&v=e http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925942&v=e hjforum925941 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 14:13:47 +0000 Dover Services on the M26 ? Discussion andyp Discussion http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925941&v=e http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925941&v=e hjforum925940 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 14:07:49 +0000 I'm not aware of any problems fitting tyres that that are rated higher than the recommended values. With the XL rating though, you'll find the ride a bit harder as the side walls of the tyres will be stiffer. Discussion Dynamic Dave Discussion http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925940&v=e http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925940&v=e hjforum925939 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 14:06:23 +0000 >>>Amazing what people will try to avoid 3 points 4 months and lost his job? Discussion Falkirk Bairn Discussion http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925939&v=e http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925939&v=e hjforum925938 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 13:55:54 +0000 From today's DT http://tinyurl.com/yhgbhpt Discussion Armitage Shanks {p} Discussion http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925938&v=e http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925938&v=e hjforum925937 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 13:51:12 +0000 In our area(Essex) there are mobile locksmiths about complete with electronics capable of recoding. Discussion jc2 Discussion http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925937&v=e http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925937&v=e hjforum925936 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 13:46:37 +0000 Don't you just love assumptions!! No I was not lane hogging, was actually overtaking a line of traffic at the time, they were doing about 60mph, so plenty fast enough, also, no one was behind me!!! As for the lights, they were not maplin esque, they were proper blue strobes, twin flashing about 6 inches high and 18" accross. The driver was in his 40's with a moustache!! As for did I get enough o report him, yes I did, vehicle details and reg number as well as time, location and the exit he got off at!! As for impeding an emergency vehicle, his lights were not flashing before the event took place, he flashed them for about 5-10 seconds after the event then turned them off again. I suppose he was doing it to intimidate me, it didnt work!!!! My point is, if he did it to me, after an appalling piece of his driving then how many other people is he doing it to!!! Makes a mockery of emergency vehicles!! Discussion R75 Discussion http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925936&v=e http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925936&v=e hjforum925935 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 13:29:16 +0000 Makes me wonder what was the most statistically or allegedly or I suppose even apocryphally most reliable everyday car of recent decades...... Discussion Humph Backbridge Discussion http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925935&v=e http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925935&v=e hjforum925934 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 13:28:57 +0000 Another advantage of fitting a complete housing, at least from the trade's point of view, is there's no wasted time cleaning up the mating surface and having to use tons of sealant. I don't understand this - If you remove the housing you still have to clean up the mating surface and use new sealant ? Changing the stat took 10 seconds, once the housing was off and 10 seconds to fit the new one (just twists in). My part,once sourced from the Net,was collected from the Factors,in a box with a removal/refitting tube,a sachet of rubber grease and three 'O' rings. And full comprehensive instructions. Bargain in my book ! Technical matters mickyh7 Technical matters http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925934&v=e http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925934&v=e hjforum925933 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 13:24:35 +0000 It sums up just how much better cars are made now Not really - with the greatest respect to all the dewy eyed memories of Ladas - they were made in Russia, the Soviet Russians lacked the capability to invest in proper R&D and they didn't care about the customer. European and Japanese cars of that era were light years ahead. Discussion Pugugly Discussion http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925933&v=e http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925933&v=e hjforum925932 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 13:22:36 +0000 It's a good feeling saving money and one I like myself! One thing to bear in mind though with buying off internet is what quality are you getting. I'd be very happy with QH, but if the part just came in a plastic bag, you may have wasted time fitting a part that was little better than the old one. Another advantage of fitting a complete housing, at least from the trade's point of view, is there's no wasted time cleaning up the mating surface and having to use tons of sealant. Technical matters Chris M Technical matters http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925932&v=e http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925932&v=e hjforum925931 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 13:22:18 +0000 Fullchat As my old Mother used to say "Three guesses and No Prize" Discussion Armitage Shanks {p} Discussion http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925931&v=e http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925931&v=e hjforum925930 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 13:21:20 +0000 Thanks for this to PU - The Mr Loophole of the Backroom! Discussion Armitage Shanks {p} Discussion http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925930&v=e http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925930&v=e hjforum925929 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 13:16:37 +0000 Sorted,Quinton Hazell part No. QTH600K £5 came with a removal/refitting kit. 1/2 hour job. Old stat was stuck open. Thanks to all who replied. bigtee - Its an internet world now and we are in a recession. If you search around, you can find proper prices. After searching the Net,for 5 minutes, I only had to drive 1.5 miles ! That's £25 saved to spend on fun things tonight !!! Technical matters mickyh7 Technical matters http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925929&v=e http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925929&v=e hjforum925928 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 13:14:40 +0000 i was thinking the same as jbif tbh Discussion smashing Discussion http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925928&v=e http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925928&v=e hjforum925927 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 13:13:54 +0000 get him insured on something so he can see what driving is like on your own...i had one lesson on a motorway and then went on the biggest road trip i could afford just to get the experience.....the direct line ncb for named drivers actually worked out very well for me and i got pretty much the same discount if i remember correctly though now with the 2.0l focus all savings have pretty much gone lol he will think he is the best driver...i did until i managed to spin the car in the wet as i was going way to fast and almost getting hit by a tractor mid spin...... though i now have so much more respect for cars and the dangers. Discussion smashing Discussion http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925927&v=e http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?m=925927&v=e