He thinks it's overcrowded and lives in E. Anglia. Don't move anywhere else Jamie, except maybe the wilds of Cumbria, because your neck of the woods is almost empty....

The over crowded roads are a result of a crazy government - which in 1997, practically the day they took office - cancelled the bulk of the road-building programmes and then increased immigration 10 fold - you couldn't make it up! Incidentally, neither policies were in their manifesto (or any manifesto) - we didn't vote for this.

I had a similar rant at a hobby bobby who threatened me with 3 points (how? He has no powers to do so) for driving over a pavement to get to a parking spot. I said how else could I have parked? It's not my fault the roads are full and people are forced to park anywhere and anyway they can. I pointed out that not 200 yards away was a mile long road where the residents have pulled down their garden walls and now cross the pavement to park - some with cars too long for the garden which stick out onto the pavement - are you gong to nick the hundreds of people who live there? - Assuming you had arrest powers. This is the mess created by government through unmandated policies which have increased our population massively beyond the limits of transport, energy and civil infrastructures, and if we complain about it, there are armies of taxpayer-sponsored thought police waiting for you to say something out of turn.

The people that actually get off their behinds every morning are taxed to death to pay for it all. Still, that's what happns when you have three identkit main parties only interested in feathering their own nest and a culturally left-wing media who smear any party who dares to try to tackle any of our problems at source.

There's no way of knowing when the population is 'too high' as it's hardly an exact science, but the fact our high taxing Government can't pay for everybody without racking up £1trillion worth of debt every decade and our economy cannot possibly make enough jobs/schools/roads/homes for all of these people would suggest we've hit a wall.

One thing Cameron got right in his 2010 campaign is that immigration was never a major campaign issue before 1997. The level of immigration wasn't high enough for people to panic, for it to be an issue. I would say it's been the big undiscussed issue of 21st century Britain. The moment you even mention immigration might be an issue, you get hissed at by lefty nutters - the same ones who wandered through London yesterday. If you mention net migration of 150k a year is perhaps damaging there's always someone who says 'I'm an immigrant and I'm a doctor' in an attempt to make you look stupid.

You get pegged as a racist at worst or xenophobic at best if you acknowledge the 1.2million Poles who actually came are rather more than the 100,000 Mr Blair said would come. The fact is though no country outside Europe just leaves the door wide open for everybody. The United States - built by immigrants - doesn't just let everybody wander in legally. Australia's system would probably be deemed racist and unacceptable here in the nation which sent the criminals out there in the first place.

Scotland wil probably vote very soon to leave the Union and then quite probably sign up to the EU Nobel Winner Masterstate in their own right

Scotland won't vote to leave the Union. 30% at most want independence. What they really want is more authority for Holyrood so we've made sure that option isn't on the list.

Edited by jamie745 on 21/10/2012 at 14:42

Mike you don't have to read the thread, it wasn't misleadingly titled.

The population being unnaturally increased over a brief period affects us all in our motoring...and as Jamie rightly pointed out at fantastic and unsustainable costs, which will never be repaid or manageable unless someone,and it isn't the present of either of the three cheeks of the political backside, gets a grip on things....won't be holding me breath.

Isn't this supposed to be HJ's car forum ?

Let's keep it that way before it's hijacked and turned into something it's not.

I don't come to this car forum to read political views like the one above. I suggest this thread be terminated.

Look up at the names behind the average "crash for cash" claim - and the areas involved - mainly "enriched" northen ex-mining and mill towns and tell me motoring issues have nothing to do with immigration. As Jamie said - you don't have to read it - particularly as you now know the content. The suppression of free speech is what creates monstors like Anders Brevik.

>> The suppression of free speech is what creates monstors like Anders Brevik.

jamie's last entry made no mentioned of car/motoring, that's what I was referrring too.

THIS IS A MOTORING/CAR FORUM, NOT A POLITICAL PLATFORM FOR EXTREMIST PROPAGANGA of the type expressed by some of the above.

Request the thread is moved to general chat.

NOT A POLITICAL PLATFORM FOR EXTREMIST PROPAGANGA

Assuming you didn't take the mowing-down-pensioners bit seriously, thank you for confirming that discussing immigration and acknowledging the problem leads to hysterical cries of 'extremism.'

I started a new job and had things to do. Cheeky!