Citroen C2 - A temporary fix needed to keep a damn car going - bananastand

Now look here you chaps. Girlfriend's C2, 06, 110,000 miles, FSH, one owner. Trade-in according to Parkers about £2000 (personally I think that's optimistic).

Unfortunately the head gasket is on the way out. To keep the car going, at the end of each journey I have to loosen the coolant cap until it goes "SSSSSSSS" (taking care not to lose my hand) so that the pressure doesn't force the coolant into the cylinders. If I don't do this, the car won't even turn over next time without trying it about a million times. Even parking the car for an hour will cause this to happen. Also, it obviously loses quite a bit of water and if I don't top it up often the temp warning light comes on.

(For some reason Citroen don't have a temp gauge on these models, just a warning light.)

In order to chuck it in as a part-ex or through Suresell, do any of you lot know of a way to temporarily fix this, for example by pouring some kind of gunk into the coolant?

If it's sat in an auction yard for a while, obviously the auction people aren't going to start fiddling with it in the way I describe.

All advice gratefully received

Thanking you.

And by the way, please spare me the lectures on morals and ethics.

Citroen C2 - A temporary fix needed to keep a damn car going - bananastand

Just checked again and the part-ex is more like £1800. FYI.

Citroen C2 - A temporary fix needed to keep a damn car going - 659FBE

OK, morals all set to zero.

Firstly remove the cam cover and locate the head bolts. One at a time, starting near the centre of the head and spiraling outwards, loosen half a turn and re-tighten to their original position + 30 degrees, one at a time. If you are an experienced mechanic, you can assess whether the bolts will take more torque than this without moving into their non-elastic region.

Seconly, fit a pressure cap with a lower pressure. This was easy in the days of the British "tin caps" - there was a vast range. In your case, after checking that a "tin cap" won't fit (it might) you could consider winding out the spring under the pressure seal and cutting a bit off it. You can wind out and replace the spring if you drill a small hole in the visible flat part of the cap.

Thirdly, add a proprietory leak sealer to the coolant, after performing the first two operations. I don't have a favourite brand as I don't like them - but sometimes needs must. Consult the grapevine for the most effective brand.

Then sell it quickly.

659.

Citroen C2 - A temporary fix needed to keep a damn car going - bananastand

Ha ha. That's superb. I'm going to print this out and show it to someone who knows what the hell he's doing.

Thanks v much

Citroen C2 - A temporary fix needed to keep a damn car going - bathtub tom

Hope you don't buy a replacement from someone with a similar amount of expertise1

Citroen C2 - A temporary fix needed to keep a damn car going - skidpan

Retightening a blown headgasket will not work and most repair fixing compounds are pure snake oil. Some will fix a radiator but will not cope with the pressures in an engine.

The only fixes are a new gasket, sell the car as a non runner or scrap it.

From a personal point of view selling a car privately with known issues is akin to fraud, you are simply passing on your problems to the new owner.

How would you feel if your replacement car has similar issues, bet you would be delighted.

Citroen C2 - A temporary fix needed to keep a damn car going - gordonbennet

Have you had a quote from a handy competent indy to fix it proper like?

Still a deservedly popular little car, it might be worth repairing then if still wanting to shift it to sell it privately and be in a better buying position.

Continuing to run it with an obviously blown gasket could see the head or block being damaged, if the bodgit and scarper liquid magic stuff doesn't work you might end up with a thoroughly clogged up cooling system to fix as well.

Citroen C2 - A temporary fix needed to keep a damn car going - SteveLee

These engines don't like being overheated, the cylinder liner can shift. The only coolant sealant gunk I've ever known to work is Irontite ceramic sealer. To use this you have to flush out all antifreeze before using it, run it for about 200 miles, then flush agan and refill with coolant mix. I might buy you a few miles but surely an engine from a breakers yard won't cost much more than £200? Nor would replacing the head gasket.

Citroen C2 - A temporary fix needed to keep a damn car going - bananastand

Well chaps, having given given due weight to your most kind advice, I think I might go for a cheap (if there is such a thing) head gasket fix. I wouldn't sell it privately as it is, I'm not that mean and besides they would know where I live.

If Parker's is right and it's worth £1800 px then surely it's worth a couple of hundred to get it roadworthy an ting.

I suppose these are the cars that get sold by people who insist on bringing it to you or meeting you in a car park, what?

Citroen C2 - A temporary fix needed to keep a damn car going - skidpan

I suppose these are the cars that get sold by people who insist on bringing it to you or meeting you in a car park, what?

No point in trying to be incognito, it will not work. The buyer will have your address from the V5.

Citroen C2 - A temporary fix needed to keep a damn car going - focussed

Re-torqueing a cylinder head sometimes does effect a better seal, but it must only be done when the engine is absolutely overnight stone cold.

Some old Peugoet/Indenor diesel cylinder heads had to be re-torqued if not used for an appreciable time and there was a special cranked wrench available as a special tool to reach under the rocker shaft to do this job.

Citroen C2 - A temporary fix needed to keep a damn car going - thunderbird

If the gasket is leaking because the bolts are a bit skack retorquing might work but if the gasket is blown/damaged no amount of retorquing will help.

The longer you leave it the greater the damage, eventually the engine will be scrap unless you attend to it.

Citroen C2 - A temporary fix needed to keep a damn car going - craig-pd130

For what it's worth, Barr's Leaks (the bottle of fluid, not the tablets) worked for me. It was in an old iron-block Escort III 1.3, but it worked for over a year of ownership.

Citroen C2 - A temporary fix needed to keep a damn car going - bananastand

Thunder - I am sure you are right.. And to the other fellow, no I would never look someone in the eye and sell them a car that I knew was pooped. Especially if he had his little daughters with him saying "is this our new car daddy?"

No.

Citroen C2 - A temporary fix needed to keep a damn car going - TeeCee

All well and good, but the alternative is to trade it or punt it through an auction.

Eventually it'll end up on a cowboy trader's lot and be flogged to some unsuspecting soul anyway. That puts you in the same boat as Pontius Pilate. You may not have directly ruined someone's day yourself, but you didn't do anything to prevent the inevitable happening when you had the power to do so.

The only genuinely ethical options are to fix it or scrap it, I guess that ethics are a luxury that few can afford.

Citroen C2 - A temporary fix needed to keep a damn car going - bananastand

Not that it's very interesting, but I traded it in with a dealer who will have to fix it, it just won't go otherwise.

I got an 04 Volvo S40, black, with leather, aircon, new-looking michelins, hpi 80,000 miles and full volvo history which has since taken me round the country quietly and with no trouble, and feels totally solid. The sticker price was £1900 and cost to change was £400.

When you can brilliant (but boring) cars for that money I say why pay more!!!!