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Peugoet 407 Coupe 2.7 V6 HDi - Peugeot 407 Coupe - Yes/No?  
Peugoet 407 Coupe 2.7 V6 HDi - Peugeot 407 Coupe - Yes/No? - ajf2011

Looking to change my car and fancied something with a bit of power and slightly sporty.

Have seen a 3 year old 407 Coupe 2.7 V6 HDi Sport Auto for sale.

Any comments on the reliability or running of this model and engine combo? Test drive seemed OK. Slightly lumpy tick over at cold but ran nicely once warmed up. Changes were smooth and no hesitation that I could find.
Is coming upto 40000 miles so major things to look for at services soon? Cambelt etc?

I like the car but something is giving me a nagging feeling and not sure what!

It's up at £10300 at a Peugeot dealer.

Alternatively, are there any other bigger coupes along the same lines these days? Audi/BMW likely out of price range.

Thanks
Andrew

Tags: technical issues used cars reliability small cars

Peugoet 407 Coupe 2.7 V6 HDi - Peugeot 407 Coupe - Yes/No? - Collos25
10k would buy you a lovely mercedes clk.
Peugoet 407 Coupe 2.7 V6 HDi - Peugeot 407 Coupe - Yes/No? - SteveLee
10k would buy you a lovely mercedes clk.

Complete with many visits to your friendly dealer to fix the blooming thing.

Peugoet 407 Coupe 2.7 V6 HDi - Peugeot 407 Coupe - Yes/No? - SteveLee

Knock him down at least a grand. This engine is pretty reliable by modern diesel standards.the 407 isn't too bad reliability wise.

A cracking car at the right price.

Peugoet 407 Coupe 2.7 V6 HDi - Peugeot 407 Coupe - Yes/No? - daveyjp

Same engine is fitted in Jaguars (S type, XF and XJ) so a visit to a Jag forum may reveal if there are any serious problems.

Peugoet 407 Coupe 2.7 V6 HDi - Peugeot 407 Coupe - Yes/No? - ajf2011

Did not realise Jag used this engine so will check that out.

Couple things that have concerned me a bit now are the points made in the car review here about potential wear on steering and suspension as the car has done over 30,000 already.

From review:

Front suspension, and steering joints can become badly worn by 30,000 miles and need replacing.
Hose for Power steering can corrode through and leak on to the front o/s tyre also at 30,000.

Didn't notice anything amiss on drive but not sure how that would manifest itself? Would it be covered under warranty at worst?

It's probably this or a somewhat more sensible 2.0 HDI C5 (new shape)!

Peugoet 407 Coupe 2.7 V6 HDi - Peugeot 407 Coupe - Yes/No? - SteveLee

All cars have their faults - as long as you budget for them what's the problem, the key is buying it for the right price in the first place, then you have money left over to fix faults. They are fairly reliable cars by Peugeot standards, the only thing I'd do is change the oil between services to help the turbos stay in top trim, let the car idle before turning it off (to cool the turbos) and put a few quid a week away for the cambelt change required in 30K miles time. Find a decent independent mechanic, suspension links and power steering pipes are not expensive items away from the st(d)ealers, take the old hose to a hydraulic hose manufacturer (aeroquip or whoever) and they'll make up a quality new one which will last the lifetime of the car for a third of the O/E price, the (probably identical) pipe has sprung a leak on my C5 so I'll have to take my own advice on this one. Mechanically the 2.7 v6 diesels engines are very strong. I do think £10,300 is over-priced for what is not a popular (but vastly under-rated) car.
I wouldn't mind one of these myself.

Make a silly offer and leave your phone number and car details written down to remind the salesman, month-end when they're trying to boost their sales figures to hit targets your phone will ring!

Peugoet 407 Coupe 2.7 V6 HDi - Peugeot 407 Coupe - Yes/No? - unthrottled

let the car idle before turning it off (to cool the turbos)

No need with a diesel since the turbos cool down very quickly once you lift off-and they're water cooled anyway.

Edited by unthrottled on 14/06/2011 at 19:44

Peugoet 407 Coupe 2.7 V6 HDi - Peugeot 407 Coupe - Yes/No? - SteveLee

You'll still want the turbos to spool down before switching off. Diesel or not these engines are known to run their turbos hot - perhaps that's why they don't have DPF issues? And perhaps that's why they are not that economical either? Due to slighty excessive fuelling?

Peugoet 407 Coupe 2.7 V6 HDi - Peugeot 407 Coupe - Yes/No? - unthrottled

How can a diesel fuel its engine 'excessively' without ending up with a fast idle? Diesels are fuel throttled. Diesels have very low EGTs during low load running-unlike stoichiometric gassers-so unless you shut off straight after a sustained high load thrash, Coking the turbo oil is simply not a realistic problem. Even high speed motorway driving would barely get the turbo hot on a 2.7 litre engine. Car engines do not work as hard as truck engines so truckers' rules don't apply.

Peugoet 407 Coupe 2.7 V6 HDi - Peugeot 407 Coupe - Yes/No? - SteveLee

Don't ask me why the turbos on the 2.7 V6s run hot - ask the PSA group or Ford. I suspect it's DPF related. Of course they are not going to run hot at idle with modern mapped fuel injection systems, it's not as if fuelling rich in one part of the range will mean it does throughout the range like it was in the "good" old days of simple diesels.

Peugoet 407 Coupe 2.7 V6 HDi - Peugeot 407 Coupe - Yes/No? - unthrottled

Diesels never run rich-they smoke before they get to stoichiometric. You're getting confused with gas engines.

Peugoet 407 Coupe 2.7 V6 HDi - Peugeot 407 Coupe - Yes/No? - jamie745

I test drove a 407 Coupe (3.0 V6) last year and it was a lovely car, buckets of space inside, comfortable, nice to drive but its no sports car. Its very heavy and the handling is heavy also, and the controls are a bit fiddly but overall its pretty good, a Merc CLK is more common than Lonsdale tracksuits in the Essex area and as a result the 407 stands out.

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