My mother in law recently dropped myself & 2 8 yo kids outside Hounslow East train station, on a bus stop: You know the score, following the bus, bus pulls away, belts off in anticipation, we drive in, hop out , driver pulls away 10 seconds max, no one inconvenienced, everyone happy.............Except........... she has just received a parking fine with photo for parking on a bus stop. She has paid the fine as she has just appealed against another ticket (and won) because the ticketing officer didn't see the ticket stuck to her windscreen. The parking dept have told her that they looked favourably on her the last time 'but it wont happen again'. This has left her with a big brother will always win attitude, hence paying the fine immediately, but I think this smacks of easy money for the council & we must have some recourse on this.
Drop Off On A Bus Stop, camera N.I.P -
If people stop in bus stops, even for only a few seconds, that means the bus can't get into the space. Therefore the bus has to stay out in the road. That means it holds up the traffic. So motorists complain that they are being held up by public transport causing congestion.
I was there, as I said no-one inconvenienced, what if we had stopped in the middle of the road & stopped traffic what would the recourse have been then, probably none, is there any restriction for drop off in the middle of a carriageway ? bearing in mind I am not talking about the M25.
This is common sense I am talking about here or have things got that bad that even an appeal wouldn't stand for it: what if there was a medical emergency how would I stand with that.
I'm pretty well along the sanctimonious road, but you have my sympathy, Jagman. There's not much harm in dropping someone off if you've checked your mirrors and there are no buses following. My son was photographed once dropping an envelope off at a shop by a loading bay. He said that he was 'unloading' his envelope. His plea was (quite rightly) accepted.
IMHO, 'common sense' has gone out of the window. I was hoping that one of the political parties might have included 'common sense' in their manifesto at the general election - but no one did :-(
Do I think the fine should be cancelled? No. Unfortunately there are people who park in bus stops creating massive inconvenience. The cameras are there to prevent that sort of abuse. Okay, so you were there for seconds (I believe you, we've all done it) but how do you prove that? Anyone could make the same claim. Perhaps we could have cameras on the buses, so only someone blocking a bus would get a fine.
As for a medical emergency, well you'd have to send proof. I hope they would see sense.
Ahhh but the OP was dropping off two children. The law changes when you have kids, then you can do whatever the hell you like as they need protecting from the massed ranks of paedos that walk the streets.
The only problem with such enforcement is the consequences it causes.
Take this piece of road tinyurl.com/3xwh6cc would you stop in the bus stop to drop someone off and risk a ticket, or do you stop just before the bus stop on the dual carriageway, where it is perfectly legal, but blocks the traffic.
It's a tough one. We've all done it: it's easy to become sanctimonious but in the past we always got away with it; nowadays mostly we don't. To stand a cat in hell's chance of sympathy in a court case, an utterly original and plausible excuse is needed. "It was only for a few seconds, gov" will not wash; end of. IIRC Stirling Moss once parked in an ambulance bay and argued (successfully) against a fine as was using his car as an ambulance, i.e. dropping his wife off at the hospital owing to a genuine medical emergency.
I think the only way round this would be a Sweeney-style "drop off", i.e. jump (rather, be shoved) out with the car still moving and not technically stopped or parked. Anyone fancy chancing a few cracked ribs to make a test case? Has to be a sliding door, so Kangoo, Berlingo, maybe an ex-post office Sherpa van...
Drop Off On A Bus Stop, camera N.I.P -
I think the only way round this would be a Sweeney-style "drop off", i.e. jump (rather, be shoved) out with the car still moving and not technically stopped or parked.
Variation on that would be like they used to do the Royal Mail on trains, where the sack of mail (i.e the person) was hung out the side of a moving railway carriage and grabbed in a net fixed to a pole at the side of the track.
Local councils could use Speed Camera revenue to fix poles at strategic points along certain roads