i had this problem a few yrs ago. i rang the police and all they can do is check that the car aint stolen and try and contact the owner. only other thing you could try is ask the police to recover it under the AADL scheme thats if your police force do it as some dont.
Thanks, I checked askmid.com and it says it is not on the insurance database. I have checked with neighbours who are in and none know the car. A couple of neighbours are out. I shall wait till they return in case they have information. If they don't, then I will go to the police.
ok block it in cus if sumone is just leaving it there and its no one that you know then ring the police cus its people like that that go round driving with no insurance and making our premium go up and also they dont give a hoot if they hit any cars or crash cus all they do is run from it. just think about it how would you feel if this car was to hit your car and they just drive off or even KILL someone....
Sorry chaps but I think you are all being terribly "english" about this. I'd just shift the thing by brute force if need be. I used to live opposite a pub. People used to park across my drive all the time. Fortunately I had a 3.5 V8 Land Rover 90 at the time. Having got fed up with going into the pub every other night to ask for cars to be moved I eventually just hooked a rope onto them and dragged them out of the way.
I know a mechanic who had this happen to him years ago. He got into it and started it up without doing any damage, drove off in it and left it parked on a pelican crossing outside the police HQ! Never heard anymore about it.
I'm with Humph. It should be regarded as nothing more than an item of discarded rubbish and removed. Just because it's a car with a number plate is irrelevant, especially when it's on your property. You are more than entitled to move it. Perhaps photograph it's position and general state first. Although personally I'd deny ever having seen it!
I had this problem earlier last year and there is a tread under my sign on. A lot of the advice about moving it onto the road will leave you exposed to a possible damage claim. Get the police involved asap but they will only be interested if it has been reported stolen.
If it is not taxed the council have an obligation to remove it as abandoned after placing their notice on the car for about a week. My council had to be asked daily for two months before they finally moved the car. Junior council employees repeatedly told that this is a police matter and not there responsibility. Also a mystery modem would be always being down with the department they needed to talk to. Their excuses knew no bounds.
The DVLA will help you identify the owner for about £3 if you apply on their form. You may not want the answer as my problem belonged to a local family known for criminal and violent acts.
A year ago car scrap values were high and I had my choice of scarp men ready to take it away on my authority as the official documents were not available.
There is no easy route on this one if the owners have thick skins.
I agree with most here, get a mate round with a good motor, drag the thing off your drive and preferably onto some double yellow lines, and deny all knowledge of it.
Can't see the Bill taking the owner too seriously should they complain.
Personally I wouldnt touch it just for legal reasons, however if its not insured, its unlikely to be legit - I saw an episode of Road Wars I think it was where an old lady discovered a stolen Impreza parked in her garage - sounds like a similar situation.
If this has been genuinely 'parked' there then it just beggars belief. If it's been abandoned why choose such a location where the driver could easily be spotted? Either way I'd definitely call the police and I'd also be very tempted to block it in somehow so that if someone returns to get it they can't just drive it away.
Well, yes, but use something solid, like a JCB. If this car has been put there feloniously the felons may not care how they remove YOUR car to retrieve theirs. The whole episode is a suspicious event, so there's every reason to involve authority, at least to establish its ownership officially.
> The unlikely event that they thought it was someone else's house ..
I suppose if we are talking about a housing estate, they might just possibly think it's their own house? A good friend of ours has been known to report the loss of her car because it wasn't outside her window. She had left it at the bottom of her drive.
Oh Blue, fancy spoiling their fun :-) That's exactly what I'd do. I wouldn't risk antagonising any low life by hemming them in or letting the tyres down, not when it'd be pretty obvious who it was and where you live.
If this is now showing insurance then I'd move it somewhere else (illegal but not blocking anything). Last October on a Greek island our bus was blocked by a car.... bus driver moved it into the road on the other side (totally blocking it) and drove on. They had left the keys though.
Still think I'd check with police or council first... but not giving address or the reg if they cannot help. Then do plan B.
sadly this is one of the many areas where the police and the other powers that be let down the ordinary decent folk
its should be a simple matter of ringing the police and getting it moved and/or ticketed, sadly they will not routinely do this in the UK
funnily enough I used to share a house with a copper and when someone did this to us the car was given a nice big ticket to pay, which just goes to show the police CAN do something if they really want to
shame the police spend most of their time persecuting the honest decent folk and running scared of the real scum on the streets
shame the police spend most of their time persecuting the honest decent folk and running
scared of the real scum on the streets
Sorry retgwte, but the ones I deal with daily don't do that... they deal with drunks, fare dodgers, football hooligans... unless those are the honest decent folk you are talking about, just caught on an off day, perhaps?
Give it a break retgwte. I doubt I'm alone in finding it's getting really tedious that every time anything to do with policing arises in a thread, there are some who will drag it off in the all-too-predictable direction. As a moderator, I try to read each and every post but I do like some variation in what I have to read.
You ever stopped to consider smokie, that the predictable direction is a result of Joe Publics ever growing restlessness with the way Policing is carried out in this country and specifically in relation to motoring . Perhaps when law breaking , be it by a man in a car or a yob in a hoodie, is dealt with across the board in the same manner with the same level of punishment, detection and enforcement, your life will become easier.?
Then pester your MP MrX rather than moan at the Police... they can only bring them before the beak, the punishments they recieve are goverened by Parliament... and I agree that they are not strong enough... I suspect that most Police think that as well... btw surely it should be "appropriate" level of punishment rather than "same"??
Mr X, the job I am doing is moderating a forum and trying to keep it an entertaining and welcoming, yet fairly balanced. place. Much of the time I am not I expressing my owns views, as someone has already said it anyway.
Out of all of the moderators I have been extraordinarily patient and argued behind the scenes for allowing continuation of threads which are really too tedious for most people to read, or not really fit for the Backroom. I wouldn't be too far wrong if I said that a number of the more vocal members, you included, should be a bit grateful to my efforts that you still have an account here. But hey, that's the job.
I am obviously completely aware that there are lots of things with which people are not happy. This has always been the case, but this is primarily a motoring forum and this continual whinging and sniping about policing in general doesn't need to be continually repeated here, even though it may have an impact on motoring. Even our resident coppers can't post a reply without someone pulling it apart, analysing their every word.
All I am would like is for us to have discussions without resorting to the usual soft targets, and re-treading the same old ground that we've seen a hundred times before here. When there's something new and pertinent, by all means bring it up.
This thread is asking for advice on what to do about a car on a driveway blocking access to a garage. This thread is now heading into politics.
I am not pro police or anti police. My suggestion to those wanting to change things would be to see your MP. Or better still stand for election and have a chance of changing this for the better (or worse).
This is becoming an issue in the backroom. It strikes me that for some time, and increasingly the last, say, 3 months, there have been individuals who post on here primarily to make political points and use any and every opportunity to expound their views on the, often tenuous, pretence of there being a motoring connection. Whether they are right or whether they are wrong it is now tiresome to have their, by now, well known, views aired continuosly. This latest anti Police post is offensive???shame the police spend most of their time persecuting the honest decent folk and running scared of the real scum on the streets? and I wish to register my objection to it. The BR is not the place it was . If the purpose and definition of this site of this forum is to change from? ?A place to discuss things with some connection to motoring?.?to?..?A place to discuss things with some connection to motoring at the same time as slating the Police, Government (either past, present or future), Local Authorities, Establishment in general at every opportunity?..then so be it, just let us know and we will know what to expect. Some here will have their own views and may adhere strongly to them but come here for what has, in the past, been an informative, often humorous and pleasant place to spend some time and do not become engaged in the political debate. That is their choice. If folk are going to face a barrage of unpleasant attacks ? coz that?s what they often are ? then the BR will lose some valuable contributors?.some have gone and that?s a shame. I?d appreciate it if I were not enticed in to becoming embroiled in escalating the arguments because my views are my own ? I?m just saying the BR isn?t the place it was and I?m sad about that.
"its almost as if we have a senior police officer amongst the moderators not prepared to listen to how the public really think?"
To my knowledge that not so but there are some amongst the ranks. I think the moderation has been more than accommodating of posters who go 'off on one' at every opportunity. Its getting so predictable.
In one of your posts above you feel that the Police should remove a car from a private driveway. They are not empowered to do so. You state a Policeman friend dished out a ticket in the self and same circumstances. Private place - not empowered to do so.
This forum is anonymous, the Police who contribute have put their heads above the parapet. There are also one or two others who have also revealed their occupations. Other than that who knows what anyone else does. The general feeling is that once the Police are involved in a post its 'game on' either deliberately trying to wind people up or always looking for
the most controversial slant on an argument to provoke a reaction. I have plenty to say about Planners and shoddy workmanship by almost every so called 'specialist' I've come across but I don't.
IF there is something constructive to say 'bring it on' but please less of the inane rhetoric.
I tend not to get embroiled too much in the anti threads myself, others do it so well, BUT as in life, if you dont like it, dont listen, dont read and move on. I manage just fine.
Politics is intertwined in almost every area of motoring, maybe we should have a thread dedicated to it?
The Police serve the general public who pay their wages, so people feel they have the right to complain - there are a fair few posts that praise the Police too, so it would appear you wish to ignore that to serve your own agenda and have a moan - which puts you on their level.
If you find something offensive, report it and the mods will have a look at it - I have reported a fair few messages when I think it may risk being offensive and they are quick and fair.
This is a public forum and it suffers both the pitfalls and the richness that comes with such a place.
You have set out clearly what I have been thinking for a time KB. I do think the moderators and HJ are good at sorting out the more extreme views and contretemps. Perhaps there has been an influx of contributors of a less moderate stance? Its often difficult to tackle the "sky is falling" line, without the risk of provoking an unresolvable argument on political lines.
I was going to second KB's post without reservation, and I do agree that some postings/posters seem to have an anti-police attitude and possibly some sort of covert political agenda.
However, it's the sheer brainlessness of some of the comments and the attacks on the views of others others that gets me, as well as the lack of goodwill. Some of it seems to get close to being personal.
I'm not sure whether tougher moderating is the answer. There's a part of me that finds some of the "borderline offensive" material so ludicrous - and so predictable - it actually makes me smile. You know, I read a post and I think, "Oh, so-and-so will be along in a minute and what he'll say is..." and sure enough, up it comes.
Probably I'll get bored with it eventually. It can't be a good thing. I suppose I would accept any decisions made by the mods designed to make the BR a little more relaxed and friendly. Come to think of it, things have gone downhill recently.
P.S. Sorry, PU - yours and other posts have arrived while I was slowly assembling mine. I realise I'm perpetuating the off-topic drift.
re "In one of your posts above you feel that the Police should remove a car from a private driveway. They are not empowered to do so. You state a Policeman friend dished out a ticket in the self and same circumstances. Private place - not empowered to do so."
no our garage was blocked by a car on a public road, the car was done for obstruction or some such i forget, but it was done, please dont accuse me of being a liar it really doesnt help your argument
"An unknown person parked a car on my driveway some time yesterday afternoon when I was out. It is parked hard up against my garage so I cannot open the garage door. What can I do about it. "
".....funnily enough I used to share a house with a copper and when someone did this to us the car was given a nice big ticket to pay, which just goes to show the police CAN do something if they really want to....."
Slightly different version of events between a driveway and a public road but you fail to make that clear.
I'm not suggesting you are a liar just twisting the events to suit your purpose to then seemingly justify an inane rant - and that REALLY helps my argument.
If the legal owner has abandoned it, he'll have to be pretty thick skinned to come knocking on the bounce if you have heaved it off your property. If it has been dumped by any one else ( stolen, prank, act of revenge ) then the blame for it's removal via my means lies with the person who left it there.
next please !
'It might be private property but isn't that criminal damage?
No probs, you do me for criminal damage and I'll do you for obstruction, fly tipping, trespass and anything else I can drag you through the courts for.
re "I'm not suggesting you are a liar just twisting the events to suit your purpose to then seemingly justify an inane rant - and that REALLY helps my argument." i dont think i twist events any more than anyone else on either side of the argument
the reality remains for a garage blocked the police will currently not get involved
yet if its a coppers own garage and the blocking car is on the road they magically take an interest and find an appropriate power
and im sure if a car parked on a coppers drive they wouldnt take too long to trace the owner and have a friendly word, just like they could and should if it happens to someone else
i think your side of the argument has twisted events significantly more than mine!
anyways the public satisfaction ratings for the police are there for all to see and its not pretty for folk wanting to support the status quo
It doesn't need anything so drastic as window breaking.
Stout rope or strap around either a towing eye or other strong point and drag it out with a 4x4 in low range.
It will come out no bother and apart from a bit of light scrubbing to a tyre or two no damage.
I didn't twist anything. I took into account ALL the relevant information before I made a comment. You see its not necessarily what people say, its what they don't say that often counts.
Anyway to move on; if you want to talk about 'Satisfaction' statistics I'm your man! My force had a 75% Satisfaction rating and we were near the bottom. The highest was around 84%(Dorset) That's a survey across people who have actually had a service - victim, witness, partner agency even suspect. I don't think that's too bad considering the volume and type of work undertaken. That not a survey of people who have a friend of a friend who's 2nd cousin got a ticket for 31 MPH in a 30.
ive had "service" from the police numerous times in my life
never been asked for feedback, although this missus did once get a form which she binned
plenty of sites will list the poor treatment and support for victims, many victims are forced to move address and no doubt will not receive the form the force sends out to the address they had when the incident happened, its victims like this they really need to listen to!
Monday morning and the car is still up against my garage. I did disappear, as it was put, but it was to go to work. The neighbours who were away returned last night but are now at work so I shall see them later. I was hoping that they had visitors and had all gone away together with the car being accidently left in the wrong place. I doubt it though.
I called in at the police station. As the car is on private property, they say they can do nothing and nor can the council. I was told that if I moved it and caused any damage, I could be held liable. It was suggested I pay a professional firm to move it. One policeman suggested that as it was an N reg car, I should be able to use a metal coat hanger to open it without damage, then push it down the road. I will let you know what happens next.
I have successfully opened a friend's car once using a wire coathanger. You need a loop on the end like a shepherd's crook, and feed it down past the door rubber to hook the pull-up button on the window cill.
Alternatives are a trolley jack to lift the handbraked wheels off the ground, then push it, if the drive is smooth enough. Or several people to bounce it on its suspension.
You will still need the jack or to bounce it to be able to steer it.
Problem solved. I got into the car today without causing any damage. Using a binding strap I went in through the window seal and pulled the locking button open. I was then going to tow it somewhere.
Inside the glove compartment were the vehicle documents. It had been purchased on Friday. The new owner was American military and was to be away for several days so the garage was asked to deliver the car. This they did, but got the address wrong.
A similar thing happened to my brother. His 320CLK Merc went in for its first service and he asked them to deliver the car to his home address and put the keys through the letter box.
When he arrived home there was no sign of the car. Too late to ring the garage, but as I neared the end of the street after dropping him off spotted his car on someone elses driveway. The neighbours were rightly baffled and thought someone had given them an early Christmas present!