hi, ive just bought a 2005 Renault scenic grand today, on the way home from the garage i noticed the computer said "check parking brake", i went straight back to the garage, and was told that when it went through its pre sale service the computer wasnt reset, and to drop it back for the day so they could reset it, i was just wondering if this was correct, as ive had a lot of problems with electronics on cars before,
no, when im using the brake the message changes to "parking brake on" or "parking brake off" but always returns to "check parking brake", also on the top of the screen is a red triangle with a "p" in it and service in bold red letters.
yet when you flick through the computer it says it isnt due a service for 18000 miles
A while back I met a bloke whose Scenic handbrake had packed up (something to do with the computer IIRC) and was quoted a £1000 to have it fixed. He wasn't a happy bunny as the car was out of warranty.
Why the hell can't manufacturers just leave these things alone? I notice VW are fitting electronic handbrakes to some models now.
I'm looking forward in the future to getting one of those awards from the manufacturers from their efficiency savings schemes by suggesting they fit 'manually operated stopping devices'. Or handbrakes as we used to call them.
I do belive that once the overide in the boot has been activated you have to visit the dealer to repair/re-engage the mechanism.I may be wrong pehaps someone else will confirm.The other draw back I once had was engine wont start so electronic break wont release, was unable to get to emegency brake release as boot was full and parked hard up to wall. On another ocassion after filling with petrol unable to start engine therefore unable to move from filling pump much to the annoyance of the petrol station.
Whoever thinks of these gimmicks wants a good kick up the ******.
Our emergency override was activated after the car was misfueled (didn't want to risk switching the ignition on), and it was recovered onto a truck. It hasn't been in to the dealers since and the brake still works fine.
You can release the brake without starting the engine or touching the emergency release. If the keycard is in the slot, pulling the handbrake "lever" out, and pressing the little button in the middle will release the handbrake.
I've seen this done on ours when having tyres fitted, and for the rear wheel bearing inspection on the MOT.
I was sceptical of this system, like many others on the car, but none have given any trouble to date. My friendly mechanic always takes the time to lube up the mechanism at service time though.
>You can release the brake without starting the engine or touching the emergency release. If the keycard is in the slot, pulling the handbrake "lever" out, and pressing the little button in the middle will release the handbrake.
The scenic I had did not release as you mentioned without engine running. Perhaps they were modified I had one of the very first scenics with this gimmick fitted. The other thing was you could remove the keycard and leave the engine running.
Ours has the "Hands free Renault card" system, so the card only needs to be on your person to operate the car, rather than installed in the reader. The only exceptions are if you want to release the parking brake manually, or open the boot with the engine running, in which case the card needs to be in its reader. Trying to do either of these without the card inserted promotes a beep, and a flashing of the illumination around the reader slot.
This system has similar problems though, in that you can wander off with the card and the engine will still run. It will intermittently beep, and show "CARD NOT DETECTED" in the display, but it still runs, and presumably drives. I would expect the engine to stop as soon as it loses comms with the key. It would have been an excellent anti car-jack device if nothing else. It definitely does not unlock or start without a keycard in range though.
Ah you have the proximity keycard , mine had to be in the slot . You could certainly drive off without my card in the slot you could even lock the vehicle and walk away.Or drive away and leave the keycard in the house only to discover this miles from home as I believe a few people did.
I have recently had the handbrake failure on our Scenic 55 plate. I took it to a Renault specialist (Drivers Only in Addlestone) and he tried a few times to reset it, no luck. I also tried removing the battery for 10 minutes also no luck. I reluctantly booked it into SMC Renault, in the mean time one of the HT Coils failed so the engine was missing. I replaced all four and all was good, but I noticed that the HT leads was badly scorched by arcing up the sides due to the ceramic breaking down. The next day Renault were able to reset the computer within minutes.
Speaking to a friend who is also an electronics engineer, we agreed this could have been a factor and why the cars computer was reporting a handbrake fault.
This is hard to prove but, if anyone else has a computer fault it is worth checking, especially as I notice most of these cars mentioned here are of an age where the HT leads will be around 5 - 7 years old.