Car compass. - M.M
Has anyone one of these electronic/digital car compass thingys?

Any idea of a supplier, on-line perhaps. Didn't turn up much with a search.

David W
Car compass. - CM
Halfords, Homebase, B&Q.....

Pointless toy unless you are in a desert and you should be able to tell from where the sun is!!
Car compass. - BrianW
Not so daft in England where half the junctions have no sign posts and the sun is hidden behind cloud!
Car compass. - CM
touché
Car compass. - THe Growler
Waste of time.
Car compass. - Armitage Shanks{P}
A compass detects magnetic North but is generally highly confused by the metal box it has to live in (your car) and all the electric fields arising from radios, ECUs, alternators etc. If you have to know where North is a cheap (£100) GPS should do the trick; Magellan start at about £100.
Car compass. - M.M
Of course in bringing the negative's to the fore you assume I might want it to tell which direction I was travelling in....not so.

David W
Car compass. - Phil I
Possibly not whilst travelling but perhaps whilst stationary to decide which way to go?

If not enlightment please David otherwise I shall worry all night trying to think of the reason for you wanting one.


Bfn Phil I
Car compass. - Stargazer {P}
A lot of cars in Oz use these....multiple unsigned junctions 100k
from the nearest town...a good idea of the direction can be very useful....also applicable to many country locations in the UK.

The better compass types are calibrated in situ to remove any metal cage/interference effects.

Ian L.
Car compass. - John S
David

Used to be available from Tandy, so perhaps try US Radio Shack?
Tandy supplied a unit which featured a dash mount display driven by a separate compass unit, and I've seen these in Canada a number of years back. I don't know how accurate these are in a metal car.

My suggestion too would be to consider a GPS, but I'm intrigued about other potential uses for a compass!

Regards

John S
Car compass. - smokie
Try www.maplin.co.uk, they have a Nomad compass @ £49.99 which although it isn't car specific looks like what you are after.
Car compass. - M.M
Smokie.....I looked at Maplin but the unit was a bit pricey for me and not quite what I wanted.

Phil/John.....Soon time for our holiday in Scotland, just a few miles off 400 from here to the cottage. Our girls (5yrs/7yrs) haven't been more than 100 miles in one go and start asking "are we there yet" after about 50 miles, a variety of interests & distractions are needed!

A week or two ago we were using a friends Land Rover for a few days and that had a cheap compass on the dash. They were captivated by it and spend ages quietly discussing which way we were going and where it would lead us.

Hence I thought of fixing one on the rear of the centre console so they could both see it. The electronic type seemed a good idea because they are supposed to indicate the right heading within a car, also I assumed they would be illuminated at night which might help on the long runs to/from our destination. I thought these "unbranded" electronic compass devices would be about £14.99 but it seems £50 and above is common....too much for a kids toy. Some frantic searching last night has turned up a nice conventional compass with heading compensation facility and push button light for £9.99. I'll order one today.

Have a look at the site below, lots of other car gadgets there including a mini-fridge for £28.99 taking 9 drinks cans...a must-have??

www.speeding.co.uk/acatalog/www_speeding_co_uk_Spe...l



David W
Car compass. - smokie
I loved the idea of the Kartray (http://www.speeding.co.uk/acatalog/www_speeding_co...g
__Special_Products__2_107.html).


"...can be used in the front or back of the car, whether you are the driver or passenger...Light and portable holding a staggering 5 kilos it can be adjusted to the position of your choice....Kartray can even hold a laptop computer for todays business person on the move..."

The picture shows it in use attached to a steering wheel.

Answering the phone on the move is one thing - answering an email is quite something else!!! Mobile computing at it's best...
Car compass. - svpworld
Not such a bad idea if it works, as many times I have got lost in country lanes and been unsure which direction to take. Of course GPS would be great, sat nav even nicer, but somehow I think a pocket compass might be a tad cheaper! I think those dashmounted compasses look a bit daft though, many 4 wheel jeep drivers put them on as if they were adventuring into the forests of the amazon, yet most get used to take the kids to school! I am a bit of a gadget freak though and am always looking at cheap gizmos to put in the car, as long as they aren't too naff. There are some electroluminescent (blue lit) electronic compasses available but as said, I would expect they would not be so accurate in a car. The electronic ones are the best though as they use hall sensors and are not influenced by the vibrations of the car, mechanical ones are rather difficult to use in a moving vehicle. However I suppose you could always stop, get out and read the compass in your hand!
Also beware of the in-car entertainment system as the speakers will be quite magnetic. not to mention the alternator, air bag sensors, windscreen wiper and window motors, various solenoids and even the ignition coil!
On the subject of those thermoelectric cool boxes for car (I'm actually a thermoelectric specialist and design and research these devices), they are not so efficient unless you can get the very small ones which hold about 4 cans. First off dont expect to actually cool anything down in them, they are fine for keeping stuff cool but otherwise require around 3 or 4 hrs of constant running to drop the interior temperature by ~ 10 deg. This was my experience with the halfords ones when kept inside a hot car and running from the ciggy lighter. Perhaps in an air conditioned car it would be much better. They usually consume around 5A, so you need the engine running to use them.
Alternatively, I suppose you could put a few large solar panels on the roof to run it when parked up!!!!

Simon
Car compass. - terryb
svpworld

Is it the peltier effect these boxes use?

I've just bought one of these made by Camping Gaz, comes with a standard cold-box lid and one with plug, motor and fan for cooling or heating depending on what way up you put the plug in. Struck me as sensible for cooling to have the chiller at the top (cold air sinks etc etc). It also appears to have a relay in it so if the car isn't generating enough power it cuts out to avoid draining the battery. Useful as the Jeep has 2 power points that aren't linked through the ignition - only the real cig lighter is.

Terry
Car compass. - svpworld
Yes, these cool boxes utilise the Peltier effect. There's a single stage Bismuth telluride Peltier module in the lid, sandwiched between two finned heatsinks (one inside the box, one outside the box). Usually there's also a pair of fans to assist air flow through the heat sinks. The module pumps heat in one direction, either from inside the box to the outside or vice versa if current flow is reversed. Some boxes have a reversing switch which allows you to warm the inside of the box as opposed to cooling it. The modules usually take around 50W, they need very smooth d.c. otherwise they heat up (Joule effect) and become less effective. What you must remember is that they pump heat from inside to outside, and so the outside temperature will influence how effective the cooling is. If you put them in a hot boot, the unit isnt very effective as putting it say in the rear of the car with the window open when driving. The more heat you can extract from the outside, the better is the cooling.
ANother problem with many of them is condensation - there is nothing to remove moisture from inside the box, so it often forms on the internal heatsink. If its excessive and the unit isnt well sealed, it can lead to corrosion. A bag of silica gel in the box works well, as does plenty of air circulation in the box (try not to obstruct the fan at the top).

Regards
Simon
SVPworld
Car compass. - terryb
David

I got one of these for the last XM. Invaluable when navigating through French backlanes. Got it mailorder, I will look up who from (?Garmin?). They advertise every month in the Caravan Club magazine.

Worked by going into setup mode, pressing a button, turning the car through 180 degrees and pressing the button again. This eliminated in-car magnetic fields from its calculations.

Don't need it in the Jeep, got one built-in (which to disprove the doubting thomases out there did save me from running out of diesel in the middle of nowhere - well, Burgundy - last week).

In fact if I can find it and the instructions you're welcome to it for a (very) small consideration. It'll need a new battery (little lithium job iirc) but that's all.


Terry
Car compass. - M.M
Terry,

That's very kind. I'll hold off ordering the one I mentioned until you've found yours.

Perhaps you could mail me (woollard.com@btinternet.com) as your address isn't visible in the profile screen.

Thanks.



David W
Car compass. - <0.One%
Uses of car compass:

DW Be warned :- My son received a present recently - it was a gadget that combined binoculars/magnifier/compass in one unit. He used the compass in the car religiously for about a week, then completely lost interest in it. As always, a new toy is fun for a few days and then it is only worth giving away at a charity shop (or disposal at a boot-sale if you are fond of these events).
Car compass. - M.M
0.O,

>He used the compass in the car religiously for about a week, then completely lost interest in it...

A week will do us....I'll restrict its use in the middle of the holiday.

Anyway it'll have to compete with the kite and metal detector!!



David W
Car compass. - THe Growler
In Saudi and other Moslem countries they DO use compasses religiously: for locating the direction of Mecca so they can stop the car and spread their prayer rugs out pointing in the right direction. On these there tends not be a N/S/E/W, just a sign for Mecca, so all you you do is orient the rug accordingly.
Car compass. - Ian (Cape Town)
Ok, so tell us what it's for...
BTW, a friend used to 'box' his often, but it still went haywire...
Turns out his dash-mounted speakers had a strange effect - especially when turned up loud!
I suspect any radio, mobile etc could have a negative effect.
I used to use a boyscout compass when travelling - if only to make sure I was going in the right direction when coming out of the metro stations...
Car compass. - THe Growler
Careful chaps, or you'll alert those restless legislators to yet another offence you can be done for: trying to find out which direction you're going in while operating a motor vehicle.
Car compass - Update. - M.M
Terry B very kindly sent me his (now unwanted because his new car has one as OE) electronic compass on home trial.

Neat little device, easy to set up and so far has interested the kids....not in the way I planned though.

....Dad, Dad can we have the new compass in the back so we can see it?

....Not a chance, it's a Daddy toy in the front for a few days. Even got safely home from town this afternoon without a wrong turn...it does work!

Thanks Terry...the cheque is in the post as they say!

David W
Car compass - Update. - Dwight Van Driver
<< neat little device >>>

.. but does it show where the ends of the earth are?

DVD
Car compass - Update. - M.M
Hello DVD,

Well there is a symbol on the display that instructs you to make a U-turn, the instructions refer to it as part of the set-up procedure.......

However perhaps it does detect the edge and give a warning.

(I know I owe you one, busy busy haymaking!)

David
David W
Car compass - Update. - Flat in Fifth
".. but does it show where the ends of the earth are?"

Surely I thought everyone knew this was somewhere just beyond Cleethorpes.

You know at the end of the M180, the motorway with the most crashes due to sleepy drivers. (bit of trivia as motoring link)
Car compass - Update. - terryb
Glad to be able to help David.

If the girls get too impatient, I've got loads more bubblewrap!

Terry
Terry
Car compass - Update. - Cliff Pope
In circumstances where it really would be useful, eg lost in country lanes, it would make sense to get out of the car to avoid the interference from metal,electromagnetic fields, etc. No more trouble than getting out to try and read a decrepit signpost, or going to ask the way from straw-haired yokel leaning on farm gate.

But the intriguing question has not yet been answered - what else can you use a compass for?
Car compass - Update. - Ian (Cape Town)
... ask the way from straw-haired yokel leaning on
farm gate.


Be nice to David W now. He used to be a Moderator.
Car compass - Update. - Mark (RLBS)
>>Be nice to David W now. He used to be a Moderator.

And his friend still is.
Car compass - Update. - Ian (Cape Town)
>>Be nice to David W now. He used to be a
Moderator.
And his friend still is.


Well, maybe he will tell YOU what he wants the thing for - there are Backroomers having sleepless nights over this! ;)
Car compass - Update. - Mark (RLBS)
Dear Clueless of Cape Town,

You asked, David answered. This thread, Tue 23 Jul 02 09:52.

Mark.
Car compass - Update. - Ian (Cape Town)
Dear Smug of Royal Leamington Bl***y Spa,
Thanks. That one I obviously missed.
CofCT
Car compass - Update. - Pugugly {P}
Cliff,
You obviously don't get out to the country much. All the yokels
are now unemployed and off their heads on some organically home- grown weed. And all the farm gates have long since been nicked and sold for scrap.
Car compass - Update. - Dwight Van Driver
I used to use mine at skool to drawer circles and stab Harry Fowler who I hated.

DVD
Car compass - Update. - Phil I
So what did Harry Fowler do that caused this long lasting hatred??

We need to know
Phil I
Car compass - Update. - blank

DVD:
That would have been your Pair of Compasses



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