DIY- Interest, Summer Servicing completed (you?) - oilrag
Both cars now fully serviced, on the drive. All the detailed `extra`s` such as antifreeze and distilled water, rustproofing of brake pipes/sumps/subframes and so on.
Best synthetic oils, clean latex gloves on handling fuel/oil/air filter elements. All those little details that you do yourself with no time constraints on the job.

Must have saved quite a bit in labour, servicing and repairs on our cars so far this year, which will pay for the hotels and meals in France later.

But its not that really, more the enjoyment of doing it and knowing its been done thoroughly.

If you are into DIY, how about you? what have you done and anything still outstanding?

Regards

Edited by Pugugly on 16/08/2008 at 12:48

DIY- Interest, Summer Servicing completed (you?) - corblimeyguvnar
Oil and filter on the 307, oil and filter on the C15.

C15 ten minute job, filter off by hand and oil out of the bottom of the sump.
Total cost £8, Buy 1 Get 1 Free oil from Tesco and Halfords filter off Ebay.

307 not so easy and over an hour, the filter was a swine to get off and sucked the oil out of the dipstick hole because removing the undertray is an absolute mare.
Total £15, 5 litres of GM semi-synthetic and original Pug filter again off Ebay.

Quite enjoyed them both too.

CBG
DIY- Interest, Summer Servicing completed (you?) - Dave N
All the filters and fluids on the Land Cruiser, plus new front birfields, hub seals, swivel bearings, caliper seals F&R, new pads (and clips/pins/shims), master cylinder seals and rear arb bushes.

Total labour saved, about 22 hours (although the parts till cost me anout £1K), plus everything has been done by the book, all threads cleaned and torqued properly, correct grease used in hubs, caliper pistons cleaned properly and correct grease used.

Just got to get out the Dinitrol for the various rusty brackets and bits and pieces.

Edited by Dave N on 09/08/2008 at 19:18

DIY- Interest, Summer Servicing completed (you?) - Alby Back
Always used to do all my own servicing but many years ago. I was given a company car very early in life and had them for 20 odd years. Latterly, I have had my own vehicles again but the contents of the engine bay just look too scary now. Maybe I should just gulp and pitch in but I admit to fear and trepidation.
DIY- Interest, Summer Servicing completed (you?) - mss1tw
Still exactly the same process going on underneath the plastic shrouds and electronics, bet you'd do fine!
DIY- Interest, Summer Servicing completed (you?) - Dog
Yeah I'm a bit (a lot) like you Humph, but due to the overly excessive amounts charged by the pain dealers, I'm going to change the oil & filter come winter and see how I feel about the main service when its due next summer.
In fact todays cars don't need an awful lot doing to them, compared to "The Olde Daes, - No contact breakers, No valve clearances, No carburettors, No distributors ... as for the brakes, ya could always leave them to a specialist ? centre, although pads are (normally) easy enough ... on most cars.
DIY- Interest, Summer Servicing completed (you?) - Number_Cruncher
A helpful thread - thanks oilrag! It's made me begin to plan the work I need to do this month.

Here's the work I've done in nursing our E300D back to something nearing acceptable condition since we bought it. (Sorry about the long post!) Despite Roger Jones' skillful advocacy, W124 ownership is not all beer & skittles!

I imagine that it will need a brake overhaul in winter, allowing me finally to begin to deal with the cosmetic bodywork next summer.

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125,000 miles (February 2007)
New poly-v belt tensioner bearing fitted
poly-v belt tensioner hub cleaned and lubricated
Replacement Air conditioning electric fan (Off Side) - old unit seized solid
replace fuse in air conditioning fan relay - blown by old siezed fan motor
New Horn fitted
Replacement front indicator units fitted
New passenger side headlamp bulb fitted
Replacement Alloy wheels fitted - with new wheel bolts
4 New Michelin Energy 195/65/R15 91H Tyres
New Air Filter fitted
Vacuum pipe to EGR throttle replaced
new wipers fitted front and rear

126,000 miles March 2007
Fuel Pre-filter replaced
Fuel Filter replaced
Low Pressure fuel pipe O rings replaced
cylinder head removed - new inlet valve seats fitted on cylinders 5 & 6
12 new inlet valves, new upper chain guide and chain guide pins fitted
New nozzles fitted to fuel injectors, and injectors opening pressure balanced
new injector seals and leak off pipes from injectors fitted
new glow plugs fitted
new crankcase ventilation elbows and new injector pipe clamps fitted
flexible vacuum pipe to resonance flaps replaced

127,100 miles May 2007
oil and filter change - Fuchs Titan Diesel Synthetic 5W40
free off siezed mechanism for rear seat folding
repair to electric aerial wiring
Replacement rear N/S light unit fitted (old unit lens cracked)
reflow solder joints in multi-timer relay
reflow solder joints in IR key fobs, and fit new batteries
strip, clean and re-lube front wiper mechanism

September 2007
MOT - Pass, with advice on corrosion on self levelling suspension pipes
Pipes inspected - OK

133,000 miles Jan 2008
engine oil & filter change - Fuchs Titan Diesel Synthetic 5W40
Flush power steering oil & replace filter
renew serpentine belt
renew engine wiring harness
renew engine coolant
renew air filter
renew fuel filter & pre-filter
renew headlamp & front sidelamp bulbs
repair to fuel flap vacuum central locking actuator
all continental fuses renewed

138,000 miles May 2008
change rear axle oil
check vacuum tightness & electrical operation of intake resonance flaps - OK
renewed 2 tyres - new Michelin Energy 195/65/R15 91H Tyres fitted to rear axle, and rear axle tyres fitted to front axle. Front wheels toe-in adjusted
change automatic gearbox oil & replace filter (new sump gasket & seal rings fitted)

140,000 miles June 2008
all type 382 rear bulbs replaced - glass blackened
new front & rear wipers fitted

141,000 July 2008
new coolant pressure cap fitted
new disptick O ring fitted
new flywheel inspection cover fitted
Rear washer pipe replaced
new gearbox / exhaust bracket & fitting kit fitted

142,000 miles August 2008

******** TO DO **********

engine oil & filter, replace oil cooler O ring seal, replace injector pump rear gasket, change brake fluid, grease underbody pipes, strip, clean & lubricate sunroof mechanism, and replace starter inhibitor switch.

DIY- Interest, Summer Servicing completed (you?) - MichaelR
I changed my brake pads. BMW quoted £180 to replace the fronts. I bought the parts from GSF for £34+vat and it took an hour.

Interestingly the pads removed, fitted by the main dealer at much expense, were identical to the parts I got from GSF...
DIY- Interest, Summer Servicing completed (you?) - gordonbennet
Interestingly the pads removed fitted by the main dealer at much expense were identical to
the parts I got from GSF...


Seen that meself on the BM in our family Michael, got to pay for those glass palaces somehow i suppose, the price diff was a sight more than even yours for supply and fit rear pads to a 320td compact.
Wouldn't you think they could have BM stamped on their textar pads, even MB have the 3 pointed star printed on their (identical to GSF and EURO) brake pads.
DIY- Interest, Summer Servicing completed (you?) - gordonbennet
Timely reminder again, and more reasons to feel guilty in my case.

The pick up goes in for its first service in 2 weeks time, so apart from getting the thing rust proofed again, not really a lot to do there, and i've already informed the dealer that i want the fuel filter changed at the same time, (new VED at £180, wonder how long before that changes).
Still be some months before i can slip that new Fumoto oil drain valve on, and i'm itching to try it out, will try and post a picture of it in place, will enlist the help of SWMBO for the pictures.

My old MB, same again really, will get some waxoyl spread liberally around, hopefully next weekend if the rain gives up for a few hours.
I've been meaning to renew the rear brakes, the rear discs look a little scored, but the stopping power is superb, so i may just be inclined to leave them till next spring.
Its a fair job, as i shall probably renew the handbrake (strange choice of words as its foot operated) shoes at the same time, not really worn or anything, but seems a shame to spoil the ship etc.
TBH, i don't even service my MB any more, as my indy charges so reasonably, and i have no need ever to check that the work has been done properly with the best quality parts and oils.
I changed the brake fluid the year before, the coolant early this or late last year, and the diff oil the year before (also the steering fluid after a reminder from NC, thankyou), also the fuel filter, its probably been 20K since my indy changed the transmission oil so will get that done on the next service, which i usually have at MOT time.

Glad you've started this OR, will be fitting the winter wheels/tyres to the motors in about 12 or 14 weeks time, just before the frosts return....have been very lazy this year vehicle wise.
DIY- Interest, Summer Servicing completed (you?) - Alby Back
Apologies if this is a mild hijack but it is sort of related and probably not worthy of a new thread. The Vauxhall 2.2 petrol (wot I 'ave bought) seems to have a 20k service interval. In fairness that would only represent 6/7 months running to me but do you oily folk ( sorry ! ) trust that big a gap between changes ?
DIY- Interest, Summer Servicing completed (you?) - gordonbennet
Definately not HB, what will a quick diy change cost you at 10K, maybe £25 or £30, probably less if you get stocked up from Halfords if and when they have their bog off deals in oils.

(still reckon a lpg conversion will pay you, and think of the sheer pleasure of denying HM present bunch of incompetents all that lolly..;)

Tin hat on and gone to bed....the mind boggles.

Edited by Pugugly on 10/08/2008 at 00:18

DIY- Interest, Summer Servicing completed (you?) - Number_Cruncher
trust that big a gap between changes ?


Assuming that the engine has had the timing chain oil feed nozzle update carried out, and the correct grade and quality of oil is used, then, yes.

DIY- Interest, Summer Servicing completed (you?) - L'escargot
The Vauxhall 2.2 petrol ....... seems
to have a 20k service interval.


seems to have? Isn't the handbook specific? In any case, there will almost certainly be a recommended maximum time interval as well. If it was me, I would stick to Vauxhall's recommendations. They are the definitive authority for your car.
DIY- Interest, Summer Servicing completed (you?) - Alby Back
Shell too tight this morning Mr Snail ? Crickey, it was just a turn of phrase !

;-)
DIY- Interest, Summer Servicing completed (you?) - L'escargot
Shell too tight this morning Mr Snail ? Crickey it was just a turn of
phrase !
;-)


I make no apology for not putting my own interpretation on what people say, and for taking things literally.
DIY- Interest, Summer Servicing completed (you?) - L'escargot
I took all the wheels off (one at a time!) yesterday and

1. Washed the inside of the wheel, and checked for damage to wheel and tyre.
2. Checked the brake discs and pads.
3. Cleaned and then copper-greased the (alloy) wheel spigot diameter and abutment face to prevent corrosion and subsequent possible seizing onto the disc/hub.
4. Tightened wheelnuts with a torque wrench ~ checked and double checked as I did each wheel and then triple checked after I had done them all. I'll recheck them after a week or two. (I must check the accuracy of my torque wrench!)

Edited by L'escargot on 10/08/2008 at 09:12

DIY- Interest, Summer Servicing completed (you?) - Number_Cruncher
>>(I must check the accuracy of my torque wrench!)

Unless your torque wrench is *seriously* out, then it isn't something that would get too excited about. The reason I say this is that bolts which are only specified with a torque value *can't* be pre-tensioned accurately.

I've just been working on some bolt torquing calculations for an instrument, to NASA specs. If torquing alone is used, I must use +35% and -35% to determine the scatter in bolt pre-load i.e., a 70% spread! Most of this variation comes from variations in friction between the bolt under-head, and the threads, and the torque wrench accuracy plays only a tiny role. i.e., as long as your torque wrench is within, say, 5%, the friction error is much larger.

For more info describing how poor torque tightening is, see

www.reinz.com/pictures/praxisinfo_2_eng.pdf

In this document, 30% is quoted, which tallies with the figure in the NASA spec.

This is part of the logic why it's more important to re-torque after 50 miles or so, rather than being too worried about exactly how accurate the torque wrench is - the pre-load loss via embedding is, again, more than the variation in pre-load which results from torque wrench inaccuracy.

DIY- Interest, Summer Servicing completed (you?) - ifithelps
How is the accuracy of a torque wrench tested?
DIY- Interest, Summer Servicing completed (you?) - Number_Cruncher
See;

www.norbar.com/SalesSupport/CalibrationServices/ta...x

DIY- Interest, Summer Servicing completed (you?) - ifithelps
NC,

Thanks.

Agree with your earlier post, by the way.

I think a lot of us are guilty of pointlessly fussing over measurements.

Like putting an extra teaspoon of brake fluid in so that it exactly reaches the max line.

Or getting frustrated when the tyre airline sticks on the valve and you lose a bit of air trying to pull it off.

And who hasn't calculated something to five a six decimal places when they can barely measure tenths?

DIY- Interest, Summer Servicing completed (you?) - John F
Oil change - as usual left to drip for at least half an hour ........but this time left overnight. By morning an amazing amount of black old oil had appeared in a clean drip tray placed only when drip frequency down to about 2 per minute.

Yours obsessively
DIY- Interest, Summer Servicing completed (you?) - Dog
That is fine John F but ... now the top end will be without oil on start up unless you get as much oil as possible in the new filter - b4 you fit it.
DIY- Interest, Summer Servicing completed (you?) - tr7v8
The Porsche recently failed its MOT on Brake flexis so changed them & the various collateral damaged brake pipes associated with it. Now has shiny stainless steel flexy's & copper pipes.
Started refurbing the 4 4 pot callipers for same. Also did oil & filters on mine & mates Porsches on Friday including wheel bearing checks on the front. Oh & last week whilst on hols started making bracketry for the 944 S2 engine to fit the supercharger, all to be a transplant later on. Pics on www.pbase.com/tr7v8 if your interested!
DIY- Interest, Summer Servicing completed (you?) - John F
That is fine John F but ... now the top end will be without oil
on start up unless you get as much oil as possible in the new filter
- b4 you fit it.

I'm sure the top end, and indeed all the other friction areas will manage a few seconds at tickover revs with the existing film of oil, but it certainly seems a good suggestion to partially fill the new filter - thanks!
DIY- Interest, Summer Servicing completed (you?) - tr7v8
Oil change - as usual left to drip for at least half an hour ........but
this time left overnight. By morning an amazing amount of black old oil had

Ummm be careful some cars have oil pumps that won't prime if you do this, Rover V8 is a common example..
DIY- Interest, Summer Servicing completed (you?) - L'escargot
Ummm be careful some cars have oil pumps that won't prime if you do this
Rover V8 is a common example..


So how do they get the oil pump to prime at the factory? The engines will be assembled without oil in the sump.
DIY- Interest, Summer Servicing completed (you?) - DP
I have six litres of Total Quartz 9000, a genuine Volvo filter, and a set of Mintex front brake pads in the garage which have to be installed in the Volvo in the next couple of weeks.

The Renault's going to a friend for its 54k "minor" service, new front brakes, and pre-Europe tour checkover. I love the car, but hate working on it!

Also have a ZZR600 with no MOT and the bellypan still hanging on the garage wall.
Life at the moment seems a collection of half finished and outstanding jobs!

I agree though, nothing beats the sense of satisfaction of a sweet running engine, a collection of empty parts boxes, grease and dirt in your hair, and a job well done.

Cheers
DP

DIY- Interest, Summer Servicing completed (you?) - cheddar
The Mondeo had a 125k service by the dealer at 123k in March, also an aircon service and brake fluid change in May, I would do the latter though they charge £29.99 - no brainer. I changed half a rear caliper, the hydraulic bit not the hanger / sliders, last week because the handbrake mech was sticking, easy job. Need two new tyres soon, perhaps before hols at the end of the month.

I replaced the Clio front discs and pads plus brake fluid change in March IIRC and the rear shoes along with oil and filter in May. Cambelt kit on order, will do it this week.

Weather permitting I will head off on the ZRX1100 this afternoon to get an oil filter, I have the oil, and do that this week as well.



DIY- Interest, Summer Servicing completed (you?) - cheddar
Clio .... Cambelt kit on order will do it this week.


Job done, fairly straight forward, saved a couple of hundred quid !
DIY- Interest, Summer Servicing completed (you?) - tr7v8
So how do they get the oil pump to prime at the factory? The engines
will be assembled without oil in the sump.

2 ways, either pack the pump with vaseline (the way mine was done) or wind it with an electric drill & an adapter down the dizzy 'ole to get oil up. Mine had instant oil pressure after the rebuild.
DIY- Interest, Summer Servicing completed (you?) - L'escargot
>> So how do they get the oil pump to prime at the factory?

2 ways either pack the pump with vaseline (the way mine was done) or wind
it with an electric drill & an adapter down the dizzy 'ole to get oil
up. Mine had instant oil pressure after the rebuild.


That's DIY. What I want to know is how they do it at the car manufacturer's factory. I'm sure they don't go through all the rigmarole you describe.

Edited by L'escargot on 12/08/2008 at 08:04

DIY- Interest, Summer Servicing completed (you?) - 659FBE
Proper engines have an oil priming plug - my (real) SAAB had one. It's usually possible to introduce pressurised oil via the filter housing by means of a purpose made adapter, but in all of the engine factories I have visited (other than RR) there are no special precautions taken other than making sure a "dead crank" is carried out and oil pressure is established before the engine is allowed to fire. The oil pump will be well oiled from its own final test by the makers.

I always fill spin on oil filters prior to fitting wherever possible and always perform a dead crank after filling the sump until pressure is established. Fast fit centres don't get anywhere near my engines.

659.
DIY- Interest, Summer Servicing completed (you?) - DP
I always fill spin on oil filters prior to fitting wherever possible and always perform
a dead crank after filling the sump until pressure is established. Fast fit centres don't
get anywhere near my engines.


While I fully understand the reasons for doing so, I have never, once, filled or primed a filter after an oil change, and not yet had a problem. Most cars I've owned have had well into six figure mileages when moved on and didn't seem to suffer for it. That said, most cars I've owned have had the oil filter mounted on its side rendering such a task impossible.

I've always just let it start, and strictly kept it to idle until the light goes out. Then switch off, wait and top back up to max.

Looking forward to servicing the Volvo in the next few weeks. The first car I've ever owned with a paper element type filter instead of a spin-on cartridge. At least they've made it easy to get at.

Cheers
DP

Edited by DP on 13/08/2008 at 00:18

DIY- Interest, Summer Servicing completed (you?) - P3t3r
Latex gloves for handling the filters etc.? Surely that's not going to make a difference?

What kind of rust proofing do you do for the brake pipes etc.?

So far I've only done the oil and plugs this year, but I want to change my gearbox oil before the summer is over.
DIY- Interest, Summer Servicing completed (you?) - David Horn
You service your cars? Actually, the Honda is under wraps but will need a new timing belt and new brake pads when I get back at Christmas. Oh, and an oil change. Ouch.
DIY- Interest, Summer Servicing completed (you?) - Steptoe
I keep forgetting (probably intentionally) that I must order a hub seal & whatever seals the bearing carrier to the axle tube; remove half shaft, replace said seal and repack the hub bearing with fresh grease.

Strictly speaking this isn't servicing but I suppose that cooking the rear brake shoes in the oven at the start of each season (when Mrs S is out!) to disperse the embedded oil might come in this category.

I had not been overly concerned about this problem assuming that diff oil would lubricate the rear hub bearing just as well as grease but read recently on the P4 forum that this is the kiss of death for them; and sure enough I got an MOT advisory for play on the affected side, thus bringing the job into the urgent tray.
DIY- Interest, Summer Servicing completed (you?) - oilrag
"Latex gloves for handling the filters etc.? Surely that's not going to make a difference?"

"What kind of rust proofing do you do for the brake pipes etc.?"

P3t, Latex gloves for the hands as the skins thinning and so on..age
Changing gloves before handling the filter elements (not canister type)to avoid road grit/grime from the filter housing getting on the clean element and going through the oil pump, from grimy gloves.

Rustproofing brake lines = Castrol CL, waterproof grease
DIY- Interest, Summer Servicing completed (you?) - oilrag
"You service your cars?"

Just thinking about that David..

Since age 14 I have averaged (family fleet) about 8 full services a year.

45 years.. 360 services, lets say, saving £200 each (using today`s figures)

Back in the shorter service interval-labour intensive era, In my late teens and early twenties, I spent most Saturdays working on friends and their extended family cars, almost like a one man garage really in throughput, so the figure`s probably a lot higher.

Servicing, plus countless repairs, ranging from engine strip downs, electrics, body panels and some cellulose spraying back in the good old days. To lots of minor jobs these days. Wiper motors, check straps and so on. + servicing.
I reckon its at least £150,000 deflected from the trade (to family and friends) in all those years. I never charge, but get lots of free beer and other perks ;)

But really Its enjoyment and even more so in later years acting as a good therapy to the work area I was in.

Edited by oilrag on 13/08/2008 at 10:43