Isn't it technically illegal to fly this flag instead of the Union flag ?>>
Only to some absurdly politically correct local council officials and similar jobsworths, many of whom also object to England being on the flag.
As Richard Littlejohn always says: "You couldn't make it up."
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>>Isn't it technically illegal>>
This will answer questions about flying the flag...:-)
www.fotw.net/flags/gb-eng.html
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would a car with the flags on the back windows pass an MOT?
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The England flag is known as a sub-national flag, as are the Scottish, Welsh, Bavarian or Breton ones.
Our National flag is the Union Jack (or Union Flag). Apparently planning permission is neccessary, technically, to fly sub-national flags from buildings but not the Union Jack, according to my flag book.
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My stereotype of a car with the english flag on it is an old banger with a non to pleasant chap behind the wheel. Am I wrong? I have to confess when I first saw all these flags I wondered why for about 2 weeks, then concluded it must be a football event, since what else could it be
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I think they're a great indicator of social class, and helpfully let you know who to avoid when on the road as the driver is likely to be on the phone, lighting a cigarette and have about six children crammed into the back seat.
Apologies if that makes me a snob, but I can't be the only one to have noticed you only see these flags on clapped out Mondeos, cavaliers and Novas?
Have your flag in the garden, on the parcel shelf or wear your England shirt by all means, but don't do the skanky flag thing.
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I suspect that most of these flags would disappear quietly overnight if their 'patriotic' owners discovered that St.George was a Turkish bacon salesman who had a damn fine PR agent.
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Not that I'd do it - but nothing wrong with reclaiming the flag from it's link with the unacceptable face of nationalism.
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Straight into the even less acceptable face of
Chavtastic-ism? ;)
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Give me a Chav anyday over a facist.
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Sorry PU, I was being flippant. I just really *really* hate the flags!
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I'd never have one on the car myself but only because I'm not very patriotic.
I really can't see the problem with other people doing it though. Some of our neighbours - the nicest family - young parents and two great lads who love the football have the flags on for these kind of things.
What's wrong with that?
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Unfortunately the nice family next door are not the norm though - the flags, for me at least, come with all sorts of associations.... like burberry, saxos and shiny white trainers!
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Not everyone has as good a taste as us though PG!
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Hmmm... you drive a gold Focus and I'm soon to be a Skoda owner. Where did it all go wrong?!
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Exactly! If only everyone was so cool.
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Unfortunately the nice family next door are not the norm though>>
Not the case around here in the majority of cases.
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Unfortunately the nice family next door are not the norm though>>
And you expected what in Basingstoke exactly?
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I have to say that I don't really have any problem with people putting flags on their cars. What makes me laugh though is how early they are appearing. Looking out of my office window I can see 4 england flags on cars, they are starting to look tatty now, by the time the world cup starts they'll just be a few threads on a stick. lol.
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Just another opportunity for the companies (whoever they are that make those flags) to make money out of people (bit like Easter, Mothers' day etc).
There does tend, as has been suggested, a certain class divide between flag owners and non-owners. I feel there would be a high correlation between, lets say, Sun readership and flag owning. And probably with smoking and buying food at McDonalds. Not a perfect correlation (there are always exceptions).
I don't have a flag (and won't be getting one), but I will advertise my support for the England team by driving a British built car throughout the whole world cup. And for the Ashes tour. And the test against Sri Lanka. And the rugby world cup next year. I will also wear my England cricket shirt. Partly because I do care, and partly because it confuses the football fans- they see an England badge on blue shirt with a vodaphone logo, not sure what to make of it?!
Just out of interest, do you reckon we have more chance of winning the Jules Rimet cup, or holding on to the Ashes??
I also have another theory, that has yet to be disproved (as far as I'm aware)- only one major English national sporting team can be doing well at any one time (thinking football, rugby, cricket). Any thoughts??
Alex.
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Dr Alex Mears
MG BGT 1971
If you are in a hole stop digging...unless
you are a miner.
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Without joining the debate about class, appropriateness etc, I think that the new flags started to appear last month--- maybe the twenty third--- maybe St Georges Day?
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I'm wondering if we should have a separate thread "Best car seen sporting a St George Cross flag"?
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From todays Glasgow Herald:
We are sent a Department for Transport press release which states:
"A new scheme has been devised in England to identify poor drivers. From May until the end of the World Cup, drivers who overtake in dangerous places; speed in residential areas; pull out without indicating; perform inappropriate U-turns in busy streets; and drive within an inch of the car in front; will be issued with St George Cross flags to clip on their door. Those with particularly poor skills will have to display a flag on each side of the car to indicate their low intelligence mindset to the general public."
It is true, isn't it?
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I will advertise my support for the England team by driving a British built car throughout the whole world cup.
Sure it will last the whole month without breaking down, Al?
*grin*
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Er... excuse me for butting in : )
A lot of very wealthy people smoke, both cigarettes and cigars!
I am not wealthy myself, but in my job I attend many upscale events and shows. Believe you me these people binge drink and smoke, they just don't get on the TV doing it!
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PS It's the middle-classes who are tofu-eating gym-addicted calorie counters. The rich and the poor seemingly don't give a monkeys!
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Damn right!
Minimum 20 Marlboro a day, and at least 6 pints! AND full-strength coffee with full-cream milk!
Why bother working hard if you can't enjoy the simple pleasures, hey?
Money's for spending - pass the fillet steak, egg and chips, I damn well earned it!
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Can anybody, including foreign nationals in the UK, stick their own countrys' flag on their car?!?!
Imagine, if England lose to team A, put a flag of Team A on someones car whom you dislike.
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This might be even more useful than a flag if you are out and about on the roads during the World Cup:
tinyurl.com/h4377
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Ian, I heartily agree, although I smoke Camel Lights these days... : )
As I said I am not rich, although rich enough I suppose!
(I wish).
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A lot of these flags showing in the metropolis. I am expecting one of my next door neighbours to put one on his balcony any day.
Correct me if I am wrong, but has the - world cup is it? - even started yet?
Harmless regalia, flags, for the most part. Add to the colour of life even when flown by uptight idiots.
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Baron, throwing things off at a tangent, i know some South Africans who emigrated to the UK during the apartheid years, taking their motor cars with them.
One chap was very enterprising - kept the South African registration, BUT did not put a (ZA) sticker on the back of the car.
Was pulled in by Plod one day, and questioned as to WHY he did not have the international registration sticker, as requir3ed by law.
He claimed that his car had been vandalised by people before, when he had had the sticker saying he was from the 'Pariah' state, therefore he did not wish to 'advertise' where he came from.
Plod 'understood', and no action was taken.
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I run the risk of possibly offending a few people on here but I don't wish to when I say - seriously - what does it matter? They're flags. What does it matter if they go to McDonalds (my saviour many a night at 2 minutes to midnight - severely underrated food), smoke (I'm quite partial to a nice Robusto on special occasions) or if St George was a fat, balding Turk?
It doesn't. They've paid their money for some rag on a stick, and it's not going to harm anyone is it? (Apart from their fuel economy)
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I live in the surrey stockbroker belt, I dont smoke, I read the times, I drive a VW, I have just had two qtr pounders with cheese and a large fries on the way home, and I am going to put an england flag on my car.
Analyse That lot.
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Tattoos? Not yet, but my "mid life crisis" action plan has that down as one of the next steps. Not sure if it goes before or after the "have an affair" step. The pre requisite step for those two is of course "Buy a huge effoff in your face motorbike"
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>>a large fries on the way home>>
My motto is if you can't enjoy while you are here, it's too late afterwards...:-)
Also remember that the bloke who invented jogging died whilst out jogging - at a comparatively young age.
Just think of all the pints of Guinness, fish and chips, packets of Lambert and Butler Superkings etc he missed out on....:-(
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I recall driving in Ireland, passing through 'bandit territory' and seeing flags flying on the various estates we passed through. Ever since, I've developed an abhorrence of excessive flag-waving.
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I think flag waving on cars should be encouraged.
As a non flag waver It gives me an easy to recognise method of recognising cars which may be driven dangerously and are therefore good to keep away from.
:-)
madf
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How about St George's cross air freshener "cards" dangling from my rear view mirror(strictly only during the world cup).
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The personal habits, sartorial style and other general regalia, bling, tattoos etc. of other drivers are matters of supreme indifference to me. I don't like the baseball cap much, but so what? I don't much like scowling or bad-tempered-looking individuals either, but in real life they often turn out to merely look like that, and actually to have sunny dispositions.
I have not noticed that cars flying flags are driven significantly worse than others.
Stop this cruel sniping at chavs!
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And just what scent would you put on it?
Dragons Lair
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Also remember that the bloke who invented jogging died whilst out jogging - at a comparatively young age. Just think of all the pints of Guinness, fish and chips, packets of Lambert and Butler Superkings etc he missed out on....:-( - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - What\'s for you won\'t pass you by
Not that it's in my nature to contradict anyone Stuartli, but you are wrong. The person you are thinking of was a man called Jim Fixx (I think) his philosophy was that if you kept fit - perhaps by jogging - you COULD eat burgers and other junk food as much as you wanted, which was what he did.
He proved himself wrong.
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>>Not that it's in my nature to contradict anyone Stuartli, but you are wrong. >>
I never knowingly write anything that is untrue...:-)
DIED. ARTHUR LYDIARD, 87, New Zealand track coach widely regarded as the inventor of jogging; of an apparent heart attack, while on a U.S. speaking tour; in Houston. Before the frequent marathon winner came up with his then-revolutionary concept?that long, slow, distance training, or "LSD," worked best to develop stamina for all kinds of running?the accepted regimen was a form of short sprinting called interval training. When Lydiard, who was initially dismissed by critics, was not invited to be a coach for his country's Olympic team at the 1960 Summer Games, he paid his own way to Rome, trained his runners outside official grounds, and brought home two medals. His philosophy is now considered the conventional wisdom.
Also:
tinyurl.com/qs475
www.mcsweeneys.net/2001/02/05everybody.html
Plenty more references...:-)
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