Cheap sports car - Optimus Prime
I'd appreciate some advice / opinions about my car dilemma:

I want to buy a 2nd hand car with a "sporty nature". I've got a budget of up to £4,000. I want the car to be relatively low maintenance and reliable (within reason for the age).
I'm looking at possibly one of the following: Nissan 200SX (94-00 model), Honda Prelude (either models - like the looks of the older one, but think that the more recent one will be less trouble as it is more modern), Honda CR-X, Mazda MX-5, BMW 3 series coupe (or convertible), BMW Z3. Generally I would prefer the more powerful version of a particular model, and manual is essential. Having not driven a rear-wheel driven sports car before (other than family estates, etc) I'm slightly concerned about my life expectancy in a powerful, light, rear-wheel driven car. Also, I'm not currently drawn towards hot-hatches, figuring that I can do these when I have a family or when I have to be more practical in the future. I'm 27, with clean licence and no claims, so not too worried about insurance. So I'm looking for advice - have I missed a good alternative to the cars that I'm looking at? Will I kill myself? Which car should I be looking at? Any help appreciated....
Cheap sports car - bell boy
Honda CR-X is a good choice economical and docile as well when needed, i ran one a few years ago and would have another.
Cheap sports car - BazzaBear {P}
Well, I'd say you've missed a good alternative, but others may disagree.
I think you should at least consider a Fiat Coupe. FWD so you don't have to worry about the twitchiness of something like a 200SX (which can be lethal in the wet if you're not experienced), but at the same time still handles very well.
I think it's more powerful and faster than any of your alternatives in 20VT form, and it's in a whole other world to any of them looks wise.
Cheap sports car - Maz
I don't see the Z3 as an option at £4k, before we get to the turgid nature of a vehicle that's more badge than car.

I agree with Bazzabear that the 200SX can be an handful and the Fiat's not bad, but the cambelt is a massive job on these - allow £600-£800. The Hyundai coupe 2 litre SE might do just as well.

Of the Japanese brigade, the Prelude is a great car, but must have the 2.2 V-Tech engine and be the previous shape for £4k. You can afford a Subaru Impreza turbo, but probably not to run it.

Overall, the MX5 is the one to go for. A textbook introduction to the world of RWD cars, reliable, great fun and you'll get most of your money back. Imports are expensive to insure, so go for a UK late mark 1 in as good condition as you can find. There are plenty about so don't be afraid to drive a couple and haggle like a monster. A world of enjoyment awaits.
Cheap sports car - Garethj
Something a bit different? Mitsubishi FTO
Cheap sports car - Round The Bend
Celica?
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Cheap sports car - BazzaBear {P}
Maz has some interesting points.
I don't see the Z3 as an option at £4k, before
we get to the turgid nature of a vehicle that's more
badge than car.

Dead right. I didn't want to be the first to say it though, saince you get labelled as a BMW-basher :D
I agree with Bazzabear that the 200SX can be an handful
and the Fiat's not bad, but the cambelt is a massive
job on these - allow £600-£800. The Hyundai coupe 2 litre
SE might do just as well.

This is where careful buying comes in. You'll want to put some research into buying a good, well looked after example anyway, and one of the criteria should be that it's just had a belts and tensioners change (with receipts), or at least that it's priced accordingly for you to get that done yourself.
I'm not so sure about the Hyundai. It's a very good and capable car, but within the original remit it's rather under-powered. Even the 2.7 V6 only develops 165bhp.
Of the Japanese brigade, the Prelude is a great car, but
must have the 2.2 V-Tech engine and be the previous shape
for £4k.

I'd say that's a bonus, that's the best engine, and the previous shape is far more pleasing to the eye than the current one.
Overall, the MX5 is the one to go for. A textbook
introduction to the world of RWD cars, reliable, great fun and
you'll get most of your money back. Imports are expensive to
insure, so go for a UK late mark 1 in as
good condition as you can find. There are plenty about so
don't be afraid to drive a couple and haggle like a
monster. A world of enjoyment awaits.

Again, all true. The MX5 is a very good car. Depends on your needs though. Cloth-top is always a worry unless you've got secure parking and it's a definite 2 seater, where others you have mentioned can seat 4 when needed. MX5 is again, like the Hyundai, underpowered compared to the other cars suggested, but it's certainly not lacking in fun factor.
Cheap sports car - lordy
Must agree with BazzaBear. My parents have run an mx-5 since new from '95. Never missed a beat and still looks and drives superbly. A perfect 'fun' sports car. Plenty around so you can afford to be choosy, and cheaper than some of the alternatives mentioned (with the saving you could buy a hard top for the winter). Fiat Coupe? Not unless you want the £1,000+, engine out cam belt change (which a lot of owners don't bother with before selling on).
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Cheap sports car - Xileno {P}
"Not unless you want the £1,000+, engine out cam belt change (which a lot of owners don't bother with before selling on)."

It can be done without removing the engine but it's still tricky and costly.
Cheap sports car - lordy
At the very minimum it has to be 'lifted to one side'. As you say, tricky and costly!
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Cheap sports car - kingfisher
Low mileage original mk 3 golf gti 16v..Difficult to find but well within your budget.I had one for 4 years and the novelty never wore off.
Cheap sports car - BazzaBear {P}
At the very minimum it has to be 'lifted to one
side'. As you say, tricky and costly!
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let me be the last to let you down....


Once again, as long as you factor that into your decision, it's no problem. You'd have to be a fool to pay over £1k for it, it'd involve going to a FIAT main dealer, which you'd want to avoid in the first place. If you do buy a car which is in need of the cambelt service then you can get the whole service done for around £650 if you find a decent specialist. Not cheap perhaps, but not quote £1k+ for just the belts, and it's something you're likely to need to do once during your ownership experience. Fades into irrelevance compared to overall buying / fueling / insuring costs, people are just too short-sighted to realise it.
To balance that out, you're getting yourself one of the best looking cars on the road, with 220bhp as standard, for a ridiculously small amount of money.
Cheap sports car - piggy
not unless you want to pay £1000 plus>>


Not true,unless you take it to Fiat,who still insist on doing it the hard way.I`ve just had mine done at a specialist for £400. Not too bad,considering it only needs doing every five years or so.
Agree with Bazzabear,i`ts an excellent car for the money and so often overlooked.Normaly aspirated tend to be more trouble-free and give quite urgent performance.Just make sure you get a well looked after example.
Cheap sports car - Optimus Prime
I did think about the Fiat Coupe briefly - unfortunately I really don't like the looks. I'm not sure that I trust the Fiat reliability as it gets older either.
Thanks for all of your comments - they have been very helpful.
I did think of another alternative, which is the 97-01 Honda Integra Type-R. However, it's a little outside the price range and I'm worried that cheap ones might have been thrashed to death.
Cheap sports car - J Bonington Jagworth
"relatively low maintenance and reliable" = MX5. No contest.

Great handle, BTW. Amazed nobody thought of it before!
Cheap sports car - Aprilia
The cars you mention are all very different. An MX-5 is a completely different proposition to a 200SX, for example.

The MX-5 is pretty small inside (I'm 6'4" and feel very cramped in one), moreover they are not especially quick. If you want roadster styling though, they are the way to go.

Personally I would go for a 200SX if you want rear wheel drive. They are dead reliable, rapid and comfortable. Obviously as the mileage approached 100k you need to think about turbo trouble...

For FWD go for the under-rated Mitsubishi FTO 2.0i V6 - a very smooth 180bhp motor. They are almost 100% reliable (idle speed stepper motor is the only 'routine' failure and they are £90 and 15mins to fit). They are quite a mechnically simple car (no turbo) and easy to work on. They're a kind of 2+2 with plenty of room inside. About 80% are Tiptronic autos, so you'll have to look hard for a manual. £4k will get you a '95 or 96 car.
Check out the owner's club www.ftooc.org
Cheap sports car - nick
I'd definitely go for rear wheel drive, much more rewarding to drive IMHO.
Good points raised about secure parking etc. for a soft top but great fun with the roof down. Everyone should have a convertible once in their lives. With a good heater, the windows up and a woolly hat leave the roof down unless it's raining!
Cheap sports car - munnster
Mitsubishi FTO GR (2.0 ltr V6) is a fantastic car. I had one for 2 years - no mechanical problems and a pleasure to drive I recently sold mine - 1996, tiptronic, 65k miles in excellant condition for £3k. Insurance was about £600 for me (26 , full no claims) and I got around 25- 30mpg from it.
Cheap sports car - mike hannon
Fifth (last) generation Prelude with 2.2 vtech and 4ws is a hoot to drive and, 'in my humble opinion', when it has the factory body kit it looks better than the previous model. 4k should get you a nice one with full dealer service history, which is most important - if the dealer was any good...
Cheap sports car - doug_r1
There's no softop problems with an MX5, get a hardtop, problem solved.
Cheap sports car - barchettaman
Cheap sports car....thought of a Fiat Barchetta?
We´ve run ours now for 18 months and it hasn´t missed a beat.
It´s a 95, so is getting on a bit, but still looks, drives and handles really well. Paint finish still looks brand new, a credit to the previous owners (apart for the dings since I got it...)
It´s faster than the MX5 as it has an early vvt-i engine. It´s more exclusive than the MX5 as there are so few of them around (left hand drive only....)
Lovely and neat softtop design with a hardtop available too.
Obviously there are a few minus points but, at approx 2450 quid, we reckon we got a bargain. And we were obviously lucky in getting a really good one too.
Have a look at one!
Regards,
Barchettaman (as free of bias as ever)
Cheap sports car - richy
mark 2 MR2 GT T-Bar (90-99)
Cheap sports car - bradgate
mark 2 MR2 GT T-Bar (90-99)


Excellent suggestion. Mate has had one for 9 years and dreads parting with it.

Performance, handling, style & reliability.