Talking about it showing saving money, we had just a few months previous had a relay type thingy that we had to show it a tab on our key fob then enter milage,reg number etc and then it kept tabs on how much we filled up with and how much was left in the big tank and called out when we needed more.
All pulled out !!, just in time for fuel prices to go up and to be at local garages mercy.
Bulk buying of derv is maybe not hugely cost saving but when 20 miles down the road there is a difference of 50p a gallon it can save money.
Talking of colour change ,i have never get my head around why on household electric live went from red to brown and negative from black to blue.
Good to know you have driven RLs, i've had mine 5 years now and love it to bits.
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Since when did red become green and yellow become black for goodness sake!
When you are colour blind?
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Is that right ?, is it for colour blind people ?.
Or are you taking the mick?, i am usually slow on the uptake.
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All done in the name of European Harmonisation: -
"The United Kingdom agreed some 28 years ago to adopt the colour blue for neutral conductors, and has since used harmonized (brown/blue/green-and-yellow) colours for the identification of the cores of flexible cables and flexible cords but, at that time, no move was made towards such harmonisation for non-flexible cables used for fixed wiring. Unfortunately, whilst the United Kingdom was contemplating such change, much of the rest of Europe was standardising on blue for neutral, with brown and/or black phases."
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The bonus for us consumers is now there is a definite start date for when new electric cable has been installed. This has now been backed up with regulations that require all new wiring to be tested by a qualified electrician, thereby stopping most DIY changes to an existing electrical system. No doubt in the future these certificates will be required by the legal profession when a house is sold. If not available then the system will have to be tested and certified before a sale can proceed.
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My question was why were the colours changed from red and black which are obvious opposites to brown and blue which are not?.
Who had this system that we adopted ?.
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With the red and yellow I was referring to the old military fuel cap colours which would designate petrol (red) or diesel fuel (yellow). No doubt this was a NATO'ism just like the change in mains flex wiring from red/black to blue/brown is some sort of EC reg.
So the Bedford RL is your own then bedfordrl? That must be an expensive hobby when you fill it up. HM Queen used to pay for my RL juice and with a full load of gear and a diesel generator to tow it could certainly use some.
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Yes its mine, I bought in Wales when a deal for a 52 Scammel Explorer fell through, bloke selling it had nicked some of my tools not long before,mind you the Bedford is better economy wise than the Scammel was ,the RL does about 10 miles to the gallon with its 4.9 litre straight six whereas the Scammel had a Rolls Royce eagle diesel instead of the Meadows petrol it should have had, but still probably averaged 2-6 miles to the gallon with a top speed of about 30 mph whereas the Rl will do about 60 mph when pushed.
It had a good set of canvas on it until someones little darling decided to set fire to it.
Reading about peoples dream cars, mine wouldn't be a car, probably a Scammel Pioneer or a BARV , a beach armoured recovery vehicle ( looks like a mobile anvil), but then maybe there is something wrong with me.
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Reading about peoples dream cars, mine wouldn't be a car, probably a Scammel Pioneer or a BARV , a beach armoured recovery vehicle ( looks like a mobile anvil), but then maybe there is something wrong with me.
I've always been fascinated by the Canadian Ford Quad Gun Tractors. They have all sorts of odd angles and shapes, but are probably completely impractical for road use.
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Not so ,there are a number of these in preservation but still driven.
The only vehicles I can think that would be difficult on the road would be tracked vehicles,like tanks, that you need a tracked vehicle license and can be difficult when you break down, a guy in London has a russian job that causes police headaches when it "fail to proceed", and maybe the Thorneycroft Mighty Antar which is so wide and long it has to have a police escort, the spec I have is 10'4" high, 28'6 and a half inches long and 10'6" wide, oh and it also weighs 50,792 lbs, we live near the REME museum in Bordon and a Lord someone owns one which he stables here.
Other than that most vintage military stuff is very usable and good fun.
Glen
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The bonus for us consumers is ...
Why is this a bonus for consumers? Now even the most trivial repair or change to a house electrical system needs an electrician callout, regardless of the owner's level of ability. This is just added cost and hassle for the consumer.
How many of us know someone who has been hurt by someone else's DIY electrical work, as opposed to old and decaying electric (say)?
This is only a bonus for electricians and Council inspectors; it is just another bureaucratic way of helping vested interests under the guise of safety.
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<< Now even themost trivial repair or change to a house electrical system needs an electrician callout, regardless of the owner's level of ability.
My motto is ...... what the eye doesn't see the heart doesn't grieve over. And since most electrical wiring is concealed it's not going to be seen very often.
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"thereby stopping most DIY changes to an existing electrical system"
A good reason to stock up on the red/black stuff. You can still get it.
This is another of those daft EU regs that only we Brits seem to take seriously. I don't want to sound like the Daily Mail, but this sort of thing does wind me up. If you want, say, to light or heat your small (as yet unwired) conservatory/attic/understairs cupboard, which is safer: adding your own spur to an existing ring main (now not allowed) or trailing an extension through the house?
And don't even think of mentioning pounds, pints or miles...
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"thereby stopping most DIY changes to an existing electrical system" A good reason to stock up on the red/black stuff. You can still get it. This is another of those daft EU regs that only we Brits seem to take seriously. I don't want to sound like the Daily Mail, but this sort of thing does wind me up. If you want, say, to light or heat your small (as yet unwired) conservatory/attic/understairs cupboard, which is safer: adding your own spur to an existing ring main (now not allowed) or trailing an extension through the house?
As I understand it you are allowed but have to have work inspected.You are not allowed to do anything in a kitchen,even replace a light fitting,ridiculous.
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What's saved me - twice! now, is that I start to fill up and then immediately stop and recheck everything.
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"someone at Royal Mail will have figures on a spreadsheet that shows taking out the DERV pump has saved money."
And just think how much money they could save by firing a few bean-counters, each of whom will cost as much as two or three poor posties...
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Engage V.Meldrew gear - Does no one ever do a search before starting these old discussion rants. Fill up with wrong fuel here
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Change of colour for electrical wiring. Sorry folks to idle to look for that one.
Phil I
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"old discussion rants"
But this is a new "rant". Phil I (no relation!) has just done it after 40 years of not doing it - and to be honest, it's good to hear (sorry for Phil though, and his wallet) since it reminds me to be very careful!!!! I always double check, but "there for the grace of god". Must admit that I take no notice of colour of pump etc but look for the word, - "diesel"!!
Phil
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Sorry, not Phil I that's done it - Barney. (must check more carefully before filling the reply box, look for the right word!!)
Phil
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I will forgive you PhilW actually there was a mention on the old threads of a warning device you could attach to the filler cap housing which played a warning message with beeps. Unfortunately its a bit bulky and would not fit under most fuel caps. So it has to be good old eye observation for most of us..just hard luck if without 20/20 vision.
Happy Refuelling with the correct specification Phil I
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as of 2007 when you sell a house you will need a test cert on your plumbing and lecky
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If I'm about to step into a pool of diesel as I approach the pump I know I'm heading for the wrong pump!
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M3, Fleet, BP IIRC, their pump colours are very similar, perhaps complain to BP.
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"Does no one ever do a search before starting these old discussion rants"
I have the same trouble in the pub. No-one ever checks to see if we've had the same debate before... :-)
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