Camshaft drive belts and chains. - Tomo
We hear a lot about cam belts busting. I had the secondary chain break on an XK motor, so that's not the bomb proof answer. There have been cunning devices with eccentrics and connecting rods, and suchlike, fine and silent but expensive.

But what about gears (some of us would LIKE the music)?
Re: Camshaft drive belts and chains. - Dave
Belts snap.
Chains are noisey.

I agree. For want of a better word 'cog' driven v4's work a treat on bikes.
Re: Camshaft drive belts and chains. - Andrew Smith
I'm sure I've seen gear driven replacement sets advertised for the Land Rover TDi engines.
Of course one answer would be to mount the cam shaft lower in the engine and use some sort of connecting rod (lets call them a push rod) to operate the valves. ;-)
Re: Camshaft drive belts and chains. - David W
Didn't the old V6 Ford engine have gears but to make them run smoothly one had some sort of composite material for the teeth. Then that would strip off the gear and you were looking for the AA.

David
Re: Camshaft drive belts and chains. - Darcy Kitchin
Nah, you don't wanna do that, you want to change the shape of the cyl head, turn the valves through 180 deg and then the camshaft can work them directly.

;-)
Re: Camshaft drive belts and chains. - Rob S
That wonderful old motor the Rover V8 (Buick derivation)is just such a design, need to budget for replacemnent rods and followers every so often but there are no belts to break..............and a great soundtrack into the bargain!

Can someone tell me if you regular Back Room Boys have jobs to go to, or are you just hoping the boss thinks you're hard at work? (I'm only teasing). I've really enjoyed scrolling the various threads through so far, congrats to HJ for setting it up.

Rob
Re: Camshaft drive belts and chains. - ian (cape town)
work?
I prefer the phrase "Gainful employment"...
Re: Camshaft drive belts and chains. - David W
Rob,

I am my boss and I keep telling myself to get on.

David
Re: Camshaft drive belts and chains. - Darcy Kitchin
I've just given myself a verbal warning for non-work-related use of the Internet.

That must be a couple of dozen so far ...
Re: Camshaft drive belts and chains. - Rob Govier
a verbal warning isn't worth the paper it's written on....
Re: Camshaft drive belts and chains. - Richard Hall
Andrew

Even better than that, you could mount the valves in the block, rather than the head, and drive them direct off the camshaft. You could call them 'side-valves'.
Re: Camshaft drive belts and chains. - Darcy Kitchin
Sorry Richard, didn't read all the posts ...

Great minds etc.
Re: Camshaft drive belts and chains. - Cliff Pope
Or you could have the whole cylinder liner, with ports, driven by an eccentric on the crankshaft, and call it something like a "sleave valve".
Re: Camshaft drive belts and chains. - Darcy Kitchin
Why not do away with the pesky crankshaft and valves altogether and suck the mixture into the crankcase, squirt it through a port to the cyl head on the downstroke while emptying the exhaust from the previous stroke though another port?

While we're about chucking stuff away, why not bin the electrical stuff and spark plugs and put diesel in it for a *really* simple motor?

Model aircraft engines, anyone?
Re: Camshaft drive belts and chains. - OldGolfer
> Why not do away with the pesky crankshaft ...

Getting simpler!
Re: Camshaft drive belts and chains. - ian (cape town)
Let's all ride horses, and do away with that infernal combustion thingie!
A. Luddite
Re: Camshaft drive belts and chains. - Darcy Kitchin
Ooops!

Brain fade in Spennymoor today.
Re: Camshaft drive belts and chains. - Brill
Snap.
Re: Camshaft drive belts and chains. - Richard Hall
I have the luxury of my own office. I can shut the door, and people think I'm working harder than usual.
Re: Camshaft drive belts and chains. - Rob Govier
me too.

Deltics don't have cambelts...
Re: Camshaft drive belts and chains. - Honest John
Starting to get reports of chains failing on Nissan Almeras. The 1.4s and 1.6s have two chains and many of these cars are driven by the tartan carpet brigade who stick rigidly to 10,000 mile services even though that means every four years.

HJ
Re: Camshaft drive belts and chains. - Alwyn
I had the timing chain go on my Ariel Red Hunter KH 500cc twin when I wos 16 years old with no cash to get it fixed.

Davies of Chester wanted £30 to fit a new chain so it remained in boxes. Very sad. Chains do break.
Re: Camshaft drive belts and chains. - Brian W
I seriously wonder if a two-stroke diesel would not be more economical than a four-strokel, setting higher fuel consumption against the cost and worry of cambelt failure/replacement.
Re: Camshaft drive belts and chains. - Richard Hall
A few years ago Toyota, among others, were playing around with two stroke diesels. As I remember it, they had a straight six for use in luxury cars. It would probably have been a very lovely engine, but presumably emission problems killed it, as with the Orbital 2 stroke which Ford were going to put in the Fiesta.