Ban slow vehicles at rush hour. - Zub
I drive on mostly A-Roads to my work. Every day i experience large queues due to tractors/JCBs on the road.

Wouldn't it make sense to ban these vehicles from A Class roads and above between the hours of 7:00-9:00 and 16:00-18:00? Your thoughts please!
Ban slow vehicles at rush hour. - Cliff Pope
And then ban cars from the roads at milking time?
Ban slow vehicles at rush hour. - Clanger
It's looking like another "my journey is more important than yours" thread.

If you are unhappy at finding yourself in a queue commuting
a. your car is not powerful enough to overtake - get a faster one
b. you live in the wrong place - move nearer work
c. your work is too far away - change jobs
d. your working hours are synchronised with everyone else's - try flexitime or c. above
e. your car is an unpleasant place to be - change it, buy a 12v coffee percolator, add some witty passengers, upgrade your ICE (or if music has no place in your life, listen to "The Caravaners" read by Arthur Lowe) or get some new seatcovers.

HTH
Hawkeye
-----------------------------
Stranger in a strange land
Ban slow vehicles at rush hour. - arnold2
Rubbish.

In Germany, lorries aren't allowed to overtake in the rush hour; Holland now has this on several routes experimentally, too. Overtaking 3 x lorries + tractor is dangerous whatever you drive ....
Ban slow vehicles at rush hour. - patently
Overtaking 3x lorries + tractor is dangerous whatever you drive ....



Don't forget the 2 Hondas, the Rover 200 and the Micra that are all tailgating the lorries & each other because they daren't overtake.
Ban slow vehicles at rush hour. - frostbite
I would like to see the weekend lorry ban that operates in some countries.
Ban slow vehicles at rush hour. - dieseldog
Nice one frostbite.
You would ban me driving to Immingham on a weekend in my artic fuel tanker so i can not deliver kerosene heating oil to your door on monday morning!
Also, when i drive to work at 5.45am,you are most probably still asleep.
dieseldog.
Ban slow vehicles at rush hour. - No Do$h
Also, when i drive to work at 5.45am,you are most probably
still asleep.


I blinkin' wish! I'm the bloke waiting patiently some 50-80 yards to your rear, my headlight adjuster set low, waiting for a safe overtaking opportunity. With midrange grunt like I've got, they don't take long to come along, mind.
Ban slow vehicles at rush hour. - dieseldog
Nice one, No Dosh.
Wish i could go faster than 56mph in 16th gear!
dieseldog
Ban slow vehicles at rush hour. - No Do$h
>> Overtaking 3x lorries + tractor is dangerous whatever you drive
....
Don't forget the 2 Hondas, the Rover 200 and the Micra
that are all tailgating the lorries & each other because they
daren't overtake.


All of which will be driven at a distance of no more than 3 yards from the car in front.
Ban slow vehicles at rush hour. - patently
In lane 2, if there is more than one.
Ban slow vehicles at rush hour. - Dwight Van Driver
Come on Blue Oval tell us about A1 Western By Pass at Newcastle...

DVD
Ban slow vehicles at rush hour. - PoloGirl
Riiiight... and who's going to police all these bans you want in place?

Couldn't be the police, because then you'd all complain about how they were targetting innocent (slow) motorists and not "catching real criminals"... yawn.


Ban slow vehicles at rush hour. - Mapmaker
Hear hear PG. What's happened to the free country argument so beloved of the BR fascists?
Ban slow vehicles at rush hour. - NowWheels
Hear hear PG. What's happened to the free country argument
so beloved of the BR fascists?


I think you'll usually find that it is supposed to be free only for the person speaking, but not for those with a different sort of life

Ban slow vehicles at rush hour. - No Do$h
Free country and fascism. An interesting juxtaposition, but I know exactly what you mean. :o)
Ban slow vehicles at rush hour. - bradgate
Er...Don't you mean libertarians?

Surely it is those who seek to impose ever more laws on us and restrict our freedom with tax cameras, road pricing etc etc who are the fascists?
Ban slow vehicles at rush hour. - Nortones2
Its very tiresome to see references to an evil system (fascism, n***sm) used as an everyday epithet where more appropriate words would suffice.
Ban slow vehicles at rush hour. - No Do$h
Its very tiresome to see references to an evil system (fascism,
n***sm) used as an everyday epithet where more appropriate words would
suffice.


But as it is a free country, due in no small part to the huge human suffering and sacrifices made in the fight against such regimes, the term "fascist" does tend to crop up in everyday use.

Before anyone jumps on the "swear" filter, the former is a term much used and abused in daily language. The latter conjures altogether darker images and is not condoned, nor do you tend to find it's use all that common.

On reflection, I'm not keen on the term "Fascist" either. When I have five minutes it's going in the swear filter too.


No Dosh
mailto:Alan_moderator@honestjohn.co.uk
Ban slow vehicles at rush hour. - Vin {P}
It's odd for me to get passionate about anything other than my Omega, but:

"On reflection, I'm not keen on the term "Fascist" either. When I have five minutes it's going in the swear filter too."

I presume this is a joke? I try not to take issue with the moderators, but might this not be taken as a step too far. What, in any use of the word, is offensive about this word? And before you tell me I wouldn't like to be called it, here's a true story.

Many moons ago, when I was at University, I stood up at a Student Union meeting (I'd never taken ANY interest before, but they were holding it in the bar) that was asking us to give up (IIRC) £100 of our subs to support the legalise cannabis campaign. I suggested an amendment that we put £100 behind the bar instead. After a bit of rule-book jiggery-pokery, I was ejected from the Union for 24 hours under the "No platform for Fascists" rule.

Now, if it was an offensive term, would I still consider that one of the funnier things that has ever happened to me?

I worry sometimes that the BR is becoming a little intolerant. When I hear the government (of any UK flavour) described as Fascist, I simply smile to myself at the absurdity of the concept. It displays an unbelieveable lack of knowledge of what fascism is and the evils it has perpetrated.

Putting it into the swear filter, however, is a step in the wrong direction, as it helps to build up the mystique that there is something special about it. By the way, I feel the same about the party once headed by Adolf Hitler - defying people to use its name only serves to make it sound more than it ever was.

Language and the use of it in argument is something that the Fascists and National Socialists wanted to see stopped. Please don't help them to achieve their aims.
V
Ban slow vehicles at rush hour. - No Do$h
Language and the use of it in argument is something that
the Fascists and National Socialists wanted to see stopped. Please
don't help them to achieve their aims.


Ok, I feel like that bloke in the Fast Show now. The one that always changes his point of view to that of the prevailing speaker.

Erm.....

Aw, I'll leave it for now.

:o)
No Dosh
mailto:Alan_moderator@honestjohn.co.uk
Ban slow vehicles at rush hour. - tunacat
From dictionary.com:

fascist

Said of a computer system with excessive or annoying
security barriers, usage limits, or access policies.

;-)

Ban slow vehicles at rush hour. - Motorwayman
Zub

I TOTALLY agree with you, and if I may -why not include CARAVANS in the ban?

I'm 100% behind you, the caravan, two tractors and the JCB.

M
Ban slow vehicles at rush hour. - spinner
I'm behind all of you, one of the Hondas, the Nissan Micra and the Lorry ;-}
Ban slow vehicles at rush hour. - Chuffer Dandridge
How about we ban fast vehicles, and allow only slow vehicles during rush hour. That way we only have slow vehicles on the road, they wouldn't be able to rush, and rush hour would be erradicated.
Ban slow vehicles at rush hour. - No Do$h
How about we ban fast vehicles, and allow only slow vehicles
during rush hour. That way we only have slow vehicles on
the road, they wouldn't be able to rush, and rush hour
would be erradicated.


For goodness sake keep quite! Someone in the DoT will hear you and before you know it a new policy will be born.
Ban slow vehicles at rush hour. - HF
>>Someone in the DoT will hear you and before you know it a new policy will be born.

Tut tut. Political references? Whatever next?!!!

;)))
Ban slow vehicles at rush hour. - PhilW
There are, however, some continental practices that we could learn from. It is quite common there for overtaking by trucks to be banned on uphill motorway stretches. Their "crawler" lanes on motorways continue as the inside lane and the outside lane has to merge whereas here many slow vehicles don't go into the crawler lane because they fear they will not be able to merge back in. They also impose restrictions on heavy vehicles during certain hours/weekends/holiday times. These seem to work there - why not here? There are exemptions for vehicles carrying perishables and some other essentials (fuel?)
egs:-
www.pda-uk.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3595

www.pda-uk.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6418
www.pda-uk.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6212
Ban slow vehicles at rush hour. - Mark (RLBS)
Oh for goodness sakes....

It is becoming irritating that, in here at least, every form of legislation and control which affects the person writing is reviled and the sign of a police state / nanny state / whatever.

But in the next breath every conceivable piece of legislation which does not affect the writer is desperately called for - banning trucks, taxing caravans etc. etc.

Do you not realise that it is exactly that "logic" which brought us speed cameras and silly speed limits ?

Whatever happened to live and let live ? I live in the countryside, I get held up by milk tankers, tractors, sheep, cows, there is mud on the road, loads of landrovers with bad lights etc. etc. It just isn't that important.

The worst slow vehicle I ever got held up behind didn't extend my journey by more than 5 minutes.

I'd say you need to get out more, but that would probably make things worse.

Life is too short.....
Ban slow vehicles at rush hour. - Pilgrimdiva
I work in the rail industry simple answer , we have a rail system that is slowly getting back on its feet , which is almost redundant between 00.00 hrs & 05.00 hrs lets get some of it back on the rails , we even have our parts dilivered by road how sad is that.
Ban slow vehicles at rush hour. - Altea Ego
Can any one explain to me why rush hour is so called? no one gets anywhere in a rush at that time of the morning.(or evening)
Ban slow vehicles at rush hour. - Ford Dagenham
Hello

One thing i saw on the local motorway the other day was a diesel Ford of some description being driven at 40 mph with black smoke billowing out of the back by a rather frail old lady i don't know whether she was aware that the motorway was 70mph and that her car was smoking like a cuban cigar.

i found it rather funny after i turned air recalculation on and overtook at the first opportunity.


(iam not a mechanic)

Martin Winters
Ban slow vehicles at rush hour. - Graham
What strange cigars you smoke. I'd change your brand as none of my Cuban cigars have black smoke billowing out of them. Not even when lit!
Ban slow vehicles at rush hour. - Ford Dagenham
Hello

cigars and ciggarettes are filthy (sorry if i cant spell them)
(iam not a mechanic)

Martin Winters
Ban slow vehicles at rush hour. - Motorwayman
This is NOT a joke!!

About 18 to 24 months ago some of the London buses were on strike and in our area it was a case of one out, all out.

The traffic on the road was moving a LOT more freely and everyone at work agreed that if there were no buses on the roads - travelling times would be drastcally reduced.

Ok, some may of stayed away from work or taken a sicky or A/L - but that is THEIR problem and not the hard pressed/taxed car ownner.

M
Ban slow vehicles at rush hour. - BazzaBear {P}
This is NOT a joke!!
About 18 to 24 months ago some of the London buses
were on strike and in our area it was a case
of one out, all out.
The traffic on the road was moving a LOT more freely
and everyone at work agreed that if there were no
buses on the roads - travelling times would be drastcally reduced.
Ok, some may of stayed away from work or taken a
sicky or A/L - but that is THEIR problem and not
the hard pressed/taxed car ownner.
M

Oh no, surely not. You're now suggesting that buses make the roads worse and should be banned?
As a one of perhaps it made traffic better, but do you not think that those people who would have taken the bus would, if it were stopped altogether, have to get cars?
Is there anything that you DON'T want to ban from the road, apart from your own vehicle?
Up to now we've got large vehicles and caravans to be banned, expensive vehicles to be taxed to the hilt.
Wouldn't it be easier to just round up all the people who are poorer than you and all the people who are richer than you and ship them all off the Australia?
Ban slow vehicles at rush hour. - Motorwayman
>> This is NOT a joke!!
>>
>> About 18 to 24 months ago some of the London
buses
>> were on strike and in our area it was a
case
>> of one out, all out.
>>
>> The traffic on the road was moving a LOT more
freely
>> and everyone at work agreed that if there were
no
>> buses on the roads - travelling times would be drastcally
reduced.
>>
>> Ok, some may of stayed away from work or taken
a
>> sicky or A/L - but that is THEIR problem and
not
>> the hard pressed/taxed car ownner.
>>
>> M
>>
Oh no, surely not. You're now suggesting that buses make the
roads worse and should be banned?
As a one of perhaps it made traffic better, but do
you not think that those people who would have taken the
bus would, if it were stopped altogether, have to get cars?
Is there anything that you DON'T want to ban from the
road, apart from your own vehicle?
Up to now we've got large vehicles and caravans to be
banned, expensive vehicles to be taxed to the hilt.
Wouldn't it be easier to just round up all the people
who are poorer than you and all the people who are
richer than you and ship them all off the Australia?



Totally disagree with your opinion!!

Everyone has an opinion, and mine is in favour of the car.

You refer to me stating it was ok to tax expensive vehicles to the hilt!! UNTRUE, I clearly stated that I would not mind paying the extra road tax for larger cars (I run a humble ford mondeo ghia) as I would either pay the tax or buy a smaller and more environmentaly friendly car.

Next time get your facts straight.
Ban slow vehicles at rush hour. - Mark (RLBS)
Motorwayman,

I'm not really sure what your game is. Sometimes your contributions seem worthwhile yet at others they seem ridiculous and designed just to wind people up.

Right now I am undecided what to do about it, if anything. However, I am sure that I have had enough of intentionally annoying/controversial notes seemingly simply designed to wind everybody else up.

Therefore, you may well see such contributions simply disappear.

I also have the distinct impression that you have been here before under another name, although I can't put my finger on which.

Nonetheless, consider this a caution.
Ban slow vehicles at rush hour. - BazzaBear {P}
Everyone has an opinion, and mine is in favour of the
car.


That's fine, but I also have a right to put forward my opinion - which is that your's is incorrect. That doesn't mean you should change yours, but neither does it mean I should change mine.
You refer to me stating it was ok to tax expensive
vehicles to the hilt!!


Yes, that is exactly what I accused you of.
UNTRUE, I clearly stated that I would
not mind paying the extra road tax for larger cars (I
run a humble ford mondeo ghia) as I would either pay
the tax or buy a smaller and more environmentaly friendly car.


I fail to see how that disproves what I said. The fact that you would be willing to pay it does not mean that you didn't say the extra tax should exist. If anything, it proves that you did suggest such a tax.


Next time get your facts straight.


Well done.
Ban slow vehicles at rush hour. - Mapmaker
But Bazza get your facts straight as there's more evidence that the rest of us shouldn't be on the roads, let alone in buses.

We've also got a ban on anybody parking outside their own house in order to keep the traffic moving, and that the law should be strictly enforced.

Simultaneously we have a requirement to tell him about paint that will stop him getting nicked by speed cameras. And it's really unfair that a 'friend' got nicked for getting in a bus lane by mistake as he didn't mean to break the law.

Ban slow vehicles at rush hour. - BazzaBear {P}
Do you know, often when stuck in a traffic jam I will jokingly say 'Will you lot all get out of my way, don't you know this is MY road'.
Didn't realise there were people out their who actually believe that though. ;)
Ban slow vehicles at rush hour. - Myles
Tractors are banned from entering Reykjavic during rush hour.

Just thought I'd throw that gem in!