VW Touran 1.6D - Exhaust gas recirculating valve - JohnRichard

Car purchased March 2012 13282 miles, 1st reg March 2011 - new model. 1.6 D 77 kw

Now 38830 miles - equivalent 9476 miles per annum. Average 44.85 mpg, 14 p per mile.

Driven to the economy gear change guide, mostly in the 1400 to 2000 rpm range. Almost never over 3000 rpm. Average 70 mpg indicated in mway 50 zones.

Now it's pay back time - egr is choked - keeps reverting to limp home mode - frightening and dangerous when it occured in traffic.

Hope this information is useful to other owners. Can anybody offer a guide to the cost of replacement?

VW Touran 1.6D - Exhaust gas recirculating valve - elekie&a/c doctor

At a main dealer ,you are probably looking at around £1k supply and fit.

VW Touran 1.6D - Exhaust gas recirculating valve - RobJP

£1k for doing the EGR valve ? Wow.

VW Touran 1.6D - Exhaust gas recirculating valve - JohnRichard

Thanks - that's about the figure I was expecting. An independant quoted £265 for the egr valve and 5 hours including diagnosis - plus VAT. How many people / vehicles is this going to affect?

VW Touran 1.6D - Exhaust gas recirculating valve - elekie&a/c doctor

May be worth contacting Vw dealer,There are loads of software updates to try and reduce the egr problems on these,however may be too late in your case.Replacing the egr on these is a massive job,could be quicker to take engine out.

VW Touran 1.6D - Exhaust gas recirculating valve - JohnRichard

May be worth contacting Vw dealer,There are loads of software updates to try and reduce the egr problems on these,however may be too late in your case.Replacing the egr on these is a massive job,could be quicker to take engine out.

Thanks again. I think you are right about too late. After a few days, it was virtually undriveable. At first, switching off reset the system and a good blast went without trouble, but it came back next day and over a few days got to the point where it wouldn't reset. It went in to the independent. VW warned me that there are updates which aren't available to independents. (Isn't that illegal?) The job is done, but for the software updates. It's a big relief not to have it cutting out, but ..... saoftware updates ?!?

VW Touran 1.6D - Exhaust gas recirculating valve - Railroad.
If the EGR valve is choked the problem won't be limited to the valve either. The whole air intake downstream of the EGR valve will also be choked.
VW Touran 1.6D - Exhaust gas recirculating valve - Gibbo_Wirral

Is it possible to fit an EGR valve blanking plate? Lots of Pug owners do that when the valve starts playing up, particularly as its near impossible to get to on some engines.

VW Touran 1.6D - Exhaust gas recirculating valve - RobJP

Is it possible to fit an EGR valve blanking plate? Lots of Pug owners do that when the valve starts playing up, particularly as its near impossible to get to on some engines.

I was thinking the same thing - it's also a popular move on the TD6 Range Rovers from 2003-2006.

VW Touran 1.6D - Exhaust gas recirculating valve - daveyjp

To fit a blanking plate you still need access to it. Sounds like VW have designed it to jncrease dealer income. On other diesels it can take as little as 15 minutes to remove and replace.

VW Touran 1.6D - Exhaust gas recirculating valve - Railroad.

A blanking plate is not an option unless you adapt the ECM to ignore the EGR system. You will notice a loss of performance due to the ECM limiting engine power in order to maintain NOx emissions otherwise.

VW Touran 1.6D - Exhaust gas recirculating valve - JohnRichard

Thanks for all the posts. I'll report any future developments. Regards to all.

VW Touran 1.6D - Exhaust gas recirculating valve - The-Mechanic

A blanking plate is not an option unless you adapt the ECM to ignore the EGR system.

Aye, not an easy job to just blank off. The EGR valve on theses CR diesel engines are part of the EGR cooler ( bolted to the rear of the engine block behind the DPF ) and, unlike the earlier systems, have an electrical feedback signal to the ECM which not only adjusts EGR actuation, but correlates this with mass air flow, fuelling and engine torque control to apply the correct amount of EGR required for any given driving conditions.

The EGR valve, along with the air intake flap is also activated during DPF regeneration to speed up and maintain the exhaust gas temperature, so whilst reflashing the ECM to delete EGR is plausible, it could end up causing even bigger problems later on with blocked DPF's ?

VW Touran 1.6D - Exhaust gas recirculating valve - Railroad.
All part of the requirement to meet the latest tier 4 emission standards, and that is the key factor. The bottom line now is you just cannot buy a modern diesel vehicle and drive it using the same mindset as we would've done in the past, and not expect problems.
VW Touran 1.6D - Exhaust gas recirculating valve - daveyjp

Jaguar X type 2.2 diesel owners had similar issues whereby the EGR couldn't be completely blanked off. The get around was drilling a small hole in the blanking plate - 2-3mm diameter - which allowed enough gas to get through to ensure the ECU didn't throw up any faults.