Volvo S40/V40 - Is Volvo S40 a Volvo ? - scot22

When I bought my 2007 Volvo C30 1.6d three years ago I thought I was buying a Volvo. How naïve. I did not know it was a Peugot engine - which I've recently heard has potential problems. Having just spent last year £1,000 on new DPF and last week £1,300 on new clutch, dmf and one wheel bearings I would prefer to keep the car a while. However, are there other possible expensive problems to avoid by changing cars ? Also is the S40 a complete Volvo - love the comfort ?

Volvo S40/V40 - Is Volvo S40 a Volvo ? - SteveLee
Why would you expect the S40/V40 to be any different to the C30 - they share the same chassis and running gear - all based on the excellent Ford Focus.

There's nothing wrong with the PSA diesel engine - although it can be troublesome in some configurations which isn't a fault of the engine but more a fault of what it's bolted to and how! Most issues are emissions or DMF related, with turbo issues on some installations - the engine itself is very good.
Volvo S40/V40 - Is Volvo S40 a Volvo ? - scot22

Thanks Steve - my knowledge is growing slowly thanks to people like you sharing your knowledge. Having replaced DPF and DMF seems like it could be sensible to keep the car longer - I do like it. What problems could come with turbo ? : expense wise what could be worse case scenario? ( I'm neurotic ! )

Volvo S40/V40 - Is Volvo S40 a Volvo ? - SteveLee
There's still a risk of issues, the most common one is excessive carbon build up on the oil pickup leading to oil starvation which usually first manifests itself as turbo failure - repeated if the oil pickup cause is not addressed - £500-£1000 a pop. I'd change the oil between services and get the injector seals changed every 30,000 miles - which some blame on the carbon build up (might be internet myth) also being a 2007 you'll probably have a TEVES ABS system, this suffers from internal corrosion if the brake fluid is allowed to become too degraded. Have a full brake fluid flush every two years or your ABS modulator will be living on borrowed time. VW, Ford, Peugeot and many other manufacturers got burned by switching to this cheaper ABS system - the equivalent Bosch systems rarely give trouble until very high mileages.

Many modern diesels suffer from several potentially expensive issues - if you don't want unexpected bills - buy a petrol - at least the increased cost of fuel is a fixed and predictable cost! Of course some cars will soldier on forever without an issue - this really is a game of luck - but you can swing the odds your way with sensible preventative maintenance.

Edited by SteveLee on 05/09/2014 at 23:24

Volvo S40/V40 - Is Volvo S40 a Volvo ? - scot22

Many Thanks for a very helpful reply. This is invaluable for me. Really wish there was a like button.

Much appreciated

Volvo S40/V40 - Is Volvo S40 a Volvo ? - pd

The PSA engine is OK, but it isn't as good or as reliable as Volvo's own D5 unit available in the same car. The D5 also uses about the same fuel in the real world.

Volvo only rate the DPF on the 2.0 diesel for 72k miles - they consider it a service item which should be replaced at the 72k service.

Volvo S40/V40 - Is Volvo S40 a Volvo ? - scot22

Thanks for the additional information. The big lesson for me is to do more research on a car. I was taken by a lovely, comfortable and smooth ride ( and it looked good ) - didn't know what lurked !

Volvo S40/V40 - Is Volvo S40 a Volvo ? - corax

Thanks for the additional information. The big lesson for me is to do more research on a car. I was taken by a lovely, comfortable and smooth ride ( and it looked good ) - didn't know what lurked !

Interesting you say that it has a smooth ride. Many owners complain about a firm ride on the V50's. I guess it depends on the spec, and maybe V50's have harder springs at the back to compensate for heavy loads.

Volvo S40/V40 - Is Volvo S40 a Volvo ? - 72 dudes

The C30/S40/V50 is a bit less "Volvo" than say the S60/new V40, but they still drive like a Volvo. Although based on the Focus, a car with one of the best ride/handling balances in its class, anyone who has driven an S40 and a Focus back to back will know that the Volvo manages to have a 'premuim' feel to it. This is not just down to the lovely interiors either, the Volvo is more refined too. I understand that Volvo upgrade a whole lot of the Ford based components, not least suspension bushes, which is why there is less road noise and a more planted feel to the Volvos.

You've been unlucky with yours, but the PSA engines (also in Focus, Mondeo, S-Max etc) are no worse than other modern diesel engines, and in some cases, much smoother.

So don't feel hard done by Scot22, you are driving a real Volvo!

Volvo S40/V40 - Is Volvo S40 a Volvo ? - scot22

Cheers 72, I feel better. I have been surprised to read about firm ride in C30 - we've not found that. However, it will often be subjective. Thanks again to everyone for what I've learned from the post.

Volvo S40/V40 - Is Volvo S40 a Volvo ? - barney100

I had a Volvo with a Renault engine..a 340 if I remember right. I was told by a mechanic that

the specifications for the engine were laid down by Volvo and were higher than the original

engine. I had no problems with it. I've no details but someone on here will know more than me.

Volvo S40/V40 - Is Volvo S40 a Volvo ? - scot22

The posts have been informative and its good that people will share their knowledge/experience.

Incidentally posted this on Volvo forum - many views but not one contribution !

Volvo S40/V40 - Is Volvo S40 a Volvo ? - Avant

"I had a Volvo with a Renault engine..a 340 if I remember right."

I remember test-driving a 340 which indeed has the same 1.4 engine as the Renault 5 that SWMBO had at the time (mid-1980s). It was fine in the 5 but pretty sluggish in the much heavier 340 - and the 340's unassisted steering was the most ferociously heavy I've ever come across.

A lot of them were sold to retired people: I wonder how they coped with the steering.

Volvo S40/V40 - Is Volvo S40 a Volvo ? - Auristocrat

Originally a Daf design, the 300 was offered with both a 1.4 and 1.7 Renault petrol engine (the 340), and in some markets (not the UK) a 1.6 Renault diesel. The 360 came with a 2.0 litre Volvo petrol engine.

The 300's replacement, the 400 series was co-developed with Mitsubishi, shared platforms with the Mitsubishi Carisma, and the two cars were built at a co-owned factory in the Ntherlands.

Volvo S40/V40 - Is Volvo S40 a Volvo ? - scot22

Thanks again for posts.

Individual thanks Steve. Contacted nearest Bosch/RAC approved 12 miles away with your advice. They fully agreed ( reasonable price ) and getting it done this week.

Volvo S40/V40 - Is Volvo S40 a Volvo ? - jc2

Some Ford Escorts sold in Scandinavia had Renault Engines.

Volvo S40/V40 - Is Volvo S40 a Volvo ? - skidpan

I looked at a C30 several years ago. Wife already had a Focus which drove beautifully so expected exactly the same on the test drive. Was not disapointed, the car, although smaller, seemed more refined and was much nicer trimmed.

The sting was the servicing. The Focus had cost us about £600 for the first 3 services. Before I buy any car I always check the service costs since I don't want nasty surprises. Since mechanically the Volvo and Focus were identical we expected broadly similar prices. No way. The Volvo delaer wanted £1400 for the same 3 services. When asked why he simply said "its a Volvo". Bought a BMW (from the same dealer group), in the 5 years we had it the serving cost £650 (at the main dealer).

Edited by skidpan on 08/09/2014 at 14:45

Volvo S40/V40 - Is Volvo S40 a Volvo ? - 72 dudes

The sting was the servicing. The Focus had cost us about £600 for the first 3 services. Before I buy any car I always check the service costs since I don't want nasty surprises. Since mechanically the Volvo and Focus were identical we expected broadly similar prices. No way. The Volvo delaer wanted £1400 for the same 3 services. When asked why he simply said "its a Volvo". Bought a BMW (from the same dealer group), in the 5 years we had it the serving cost £650 (at the main dealer).

This is the problem with Volvos:Servicing in the dealer network is very costly, although I have to say that they are usually very good. Better to find a good Indie or Volvo specialist once the car is getting on a bit.

Volvo S40/V40 - Is Volvo S40 a Volvo ? - 72 dudes
and the 340's unassisted steering was the most ferociously heavy I've ever come across.

A lot of them were sold to retired people: I wonder how they coped with the steering.

My FiL had a 360 GLT in the 90's. It was a complete dog, the engine felt and sounded hopelessly wheezy and the transmission was like a tractor's. The steering was, as Avant says, ridiculously heavy for a family hatch, and was not that precise either. Horrible car.

Volvo S40/V40 - Is Volvo S40 a Volvo ? - gordonbennet

Yes, Volvo servicing, delusions of grandeur spring to mind at some dealerships, and Volvo are not alone in this.

Trying to remember when this was, something like1997/8, i dropped off a lorry load of new Micra courtesy cars at a Cambs Volvo dealer and collected the previous batch, whilst there i ventured in the workshops and quite honestly it resembled an operating theatre, commenting on how amazing the palace was i got talking to the workshop manager... i mentioned money and he told me of the hourly rate that workshop customers were charged, almost certain it was £110 an hour plus the state's grab.

After i'd recoiled from this monopoly money figure, i happened to say, as you do, well if they're daft enough to pay it i suppose you'll charge it...that ended the conversation abruptly.

Volvo S40/V40 - Is Volvo S40 a Volvo ? - scot22

Fully agree that if people are daft enough to pay it etc. Many Indys are much better both mechanically and value wise.

It seems to me that everything can have advantages and disadvantages : sometimes its just a matter of luck. Personally I don't pay main dealer prices unless its a job with no option.

If you like a car then you take what comes with it.