Clio/Jazz/medium-small - Another buyer who's scared of the 2nd hand market - malteser2710

Hi all,

I'm looking for a reliable 2nd hand car of modest proportions but not too small. My Clio II Dci is starting to have problems and after the current major repairs (diesel pump, injectors, lines) after just 100,000kms, I really do not know whether to keep it or not. I had bought it new, and had expected much more from it, having had other reliable Renault cars before it (believe it or not!!).

My budget is Euros 10,000 maximum, and I want something 5-7 years old, and not older. I have mixed experience with second hand cars.

I fancied the Honda Jazz, until I read about the cost of servicing. Suzuki Swift is probably smaller than the Clio. I think that the Vitz/Yaris are also smaller than the Clio and I would have problems using them for my hobby which requires some decent space at the back (can't use roof rack for rifles!!).

I don't have the budget for a new car, plus the depreciation is too heavy nowadays.

So what's a reliable 2nd hand Car I could get? Diesels perferm great when they're ok, but costly to repair, so I might consider a petrol engine of not less than 1300cc.

I cover around 10,000-12,000kms in a year.

Clio/Jazz/medium-small - Another buyer who's scared of the 2nd hand market - Andrew-T

My Clio II Dci is starting to have problems and after the current major repairs, I really do not know whether to keep it or not.

I cover around 10,000-12,000kms in a year.

So that means a petrol, given the modest price difference between the fuels, the distance you travel, and the price premium on a diesel car.

But have you repaired the Renault to keep it or to sell it? If you like the car (comfort, convenience etc) keep it and save the cost of changing. Any 5-year-old car can develop faults which need treatment, and faults on newer cars can be more expensive. But if you just feel like a change, that's different ....

Clio/Jazz/medium-small - Another buyer who's scared of the 2nd hand market - malteser2710

Hi, thanks for getting back. Yes it is quite a dilemma whether to keep the Renault or not. I'll see what the final result will be after repairs, do some more research and then decide.

It's a nice nippy little car and I'd hate to have to give it away after having spent so much money on it, trying to keep it top condition mechanically. still feels very solid on the road, unlike the 'tinny' new cars coming out lately, and returns 55mpg!

Clio/Jazz/medium-small - Another buyer who's scared of the 2nd hand market - malteser2710

Yes, you're quite right - ironically faults on newer cars can be much more expensive! And almost everything has to be thrown away and new parts put in.

Clio/Jazz/medium-small - Another buyer who's scared of the 2nd hand market - daveyK_UK

For that budget you may get a new shape Nissan Note

Clio/Jazz/medium-small - Another buyer who's scared of the 2nd hand market - gordonbennet

If you're in the market for 5/7 year old cars then servicing costs will level out, unless you insist on using main dealers..and then when you look at whats in a service you might find the cost difference, some makes dealers don't dismantle the brakes for cleaning etc, some do.

I wouldn't rule out the Jazz you originally fancied (or Civic?), whilst true that some OE parts can be expensive, in reality little worse than other makes and swings and roundabouts rules apply, friction materials and consumables no worse than anything else for EO quality aftermarket and the basic durability of the car may well offset other costs, don't suppose the fuel system repairs on the Clio have been cheap.

If you're prepared to go a little older then a low mileage Corolla (avoid MMT like the plague) would be as good a bet as anything you could buy, as would a Civic of similar age, up to 06.

It might be better to decide who's going to maintain a car for you and buy accordingly, if for instance you have a trusted indy workshops nearby who specialises in certain makes then it would make sense to choose one of those...my make specialist indy is the only reason i've kept my old Benz so long, if had needed the tender mercies of the main dealer network it would have broken me and been shifted on long ago.

Clio/Jazz/medium-small - Another buyer who's scared of the 2nd hand market - malteser2710

Thanks. If I had to change, would probably go for a Japanese. I hadn't considered the Corolla, tbh, but I'll look into that too. Good point re servicing decision.

Cheers.

Clio/Jazz/medium-small - Another buyer who's scared of the 2nd hand market - malteser2710

For that budget you may get a new shape Nissan Note

Will def. look into that option. Tks.

Clio/Jazz/medium-small - Another buyer who's scared of the 2nd hand market - barney100

Petrol seems best for your mileage. How about a Focus? Garage I go to reckons they have less trouble with these than any other car. Loads about, get a private warranty just in case on any car you buy.

Clio/Jazz/medium-small - Another buyer who's scared of the 2nd hand market - Andrew-T

Loads about, get a private warranty just in case on any car you buy.

Private warranty? May as well lay £200 on a 15-1 outsider.

Clio/Jazz/medium-small - Another buyer who's scared of the 2nd hand market - madf

My new Jazz Service Plan cost £500 for 5 years.. Paid upfront by the prior owner who drove 300 miles and then contracted terminal cancer. I bought it with the Plan unused and included in the car price .. which was substantially (25%) cheaper than a new Jazz.

If you do think of a Jazz, Honda Service Plans come highly recommended and are worth looking at.

£100 a year servicing by a main dealer seems cheap to me. ALL proscribed maintence included.

Edited by madf on 01/09/2014 at 13:03

Clio/Jazz/medium-small - Another buyer who's scared of the 2nd hand market - johncyprus
My wife has a Jazz and loves it. It's her second and it costs peanuts to run. Honda have recently introduced inexpensive servicing for the older models and I recently had a service and MOT for all in £175 at Honda, Thames Ditton , Surrey.

Suggest you check autotrader, keep phoning private sellers until you speak to someone who sounds genuine, see the car and spend as much time checking out the seller as the car, if you like both buy it. Only consider low mileage, one or two private owner cars with full history with all paper invoices. Good luck.