I wish I could find someone to bully me?

Reluctantly, over the years, there have been 'no takers'....

With regards to 'correction?'

I fond this particular forum software blocks out my spell checkers..and my fingers have minds of their own when it comes to using a keyboard.

Bullying really only works if the recipient wishes it to.

And forums still retain some elements of anonimity which folk can hide behind.

Still cannot work out which forum this 'other place' is?

Maybe it's one I used to contribute to years ago...but got too full of boy racers?

I have no doubt Avant will wonder why on earth Leif is using this forum to criticise a member about his behaviour on another forum.

Though there sometimes seems to be an incestuous relationship between the two forums, this is surely taking things too far.

'Are you always so aggressive?'

I can't see why BT's comment is aggressive, but obviously it hit a nerve with Leif.

'I noticed a recent post from you on this forum having a go at someone. I suspect they will not be back.'

I don't know which post is alluded to here, but I have not thought of any of BT's posts as aggressive, or as "having a go at someone".

I can't see why people get riled about insignificant, flippant or even blunt remarks, and start to ramp up the rhetoric; we know where it will end.

Quite how I am supposed to know that his/her first language is not English is beyond me. Secondly, what was written did not make sense, hence my polite comment. Quite how you can see that as bullying is beyond me. Are you always so aggressive?

There is an element of surprise, at least on my part, that having frequented both this place and the other over several years, you'd not twigged Dutchie's background.

I've seen the odd bit of bullying 'over the way' mostly aimed at those contributors who use their 'friends' on line as an Agony Aunt or sounding board for what seem real personal problems and anxieties. One user was suspended for gross abuse in such circs. While the 'handle' used at the time has gone it's pretty likley he's simply posting under another alias.

Others are sometimes over assertive and always want the last word.

Offer them Zero encouragement!!

Iam a he Leif have been since birth.>:) Deep down Zero is ok no mug.

I have to apologise for my spelling mistakes I should know better.Bathub Tom Zero and a few more on the other forum are caracters they don't take prisonersThere is something about you Leif which is unpleasant but you have to live with that.Sorry.

There is no need to apologise for typos, we all make them, and I only 'corrected' you since it took me a while to realise what you were saying. I find with age that it is harder and harder to spell correctly, I now make too many smelling pistakes.

And since you are grossly rude to me, at least do me the justice of explaining on what basis you insult me. What is it that I have said that makes you say that? I see no reason to respond in kind. Contrary to what others expect, I know nothing about you, and I do not recall your earlier posts. That is not my attempt at being rude, my memory is not good.

Someone might see themselves as a character, or direct and honest, and perhaps others see them as rude. I post on several other forums (I do a lot of DIY, furniture restoration and recording of fungi) and I do not come across the sort of abrasiveness I see on C4P. I also do not recall someone telling me I am unpleasant.

I find it odd that no-one has commented that BT accused my of bullying and was very rude about 'James', whereas people have commented on my response to his post. Clearly double standards, from his chums I assume.

I think you are making a meal out of this. Here's why:

"I find it odd that no-one has commented that BT accused my of bullying and was very rude about 'James', whereas people have commented on my response to his post. Clearly double standards, from his chums I assume."

You are alluding to the following from BT, I assume:

"Oh come on, isn't that using 'bully boy' tactics yourself on someone whose first language is obviously not English?

Anyway it's good to see a certain self-opinionated James isn't around."

The words "Oh come on, isn't that using 'bully boy' tactics yourself..." are not a direct accusation, and in part hinge on the suggestion that you yourself were guilty of double standards. It's a bit much to get huffy about that.

I think the comment I made to Dutchie was rather innocuous. The response from BT is making a mountain out of a molehill.

As for the comment about a certain "James", those of us who read this forum know how much grief he has caused other posters and moderators. Hardly a controversial comment.

I think that is a rather partisan statement. BT's post was in his typical bull in a china shop style, which is typical of some 'characters' on C4P. Some people see that as being a 'character', a cheeky chappie, honest and direct. Some see it as boorish. I am in the latter camp.

You mention BT's "chums", possibly meaning to include me as one of them. I've never met BT and don't pay any more attention to what he posts than to anyone else. Being chums doesn't come into it.

Your comment about Dutchie is another example of over-reaction. You accuse him of being "grossly rude". What he said was that he finds there is something unpleasant about you, nothing more.

I think that is grossly rude. It is a personal insult. But rather than respond in kind - I know nothing about the chap - I asked for an explanation of why he thinks that. hardly an overreaction.

Let's keep things in proportion.

I think you should tell that to BT.