Help pay for the MP pay increase - Dwight Van Driver

Intertesting increases in FPN.

No Insurance up £100

Note speeding up to £100 plus points?

www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2013/1569/made

comes into force on the day after the day of making of an order entitled the Road Safety (Financial Penalty Deposit) (Appropriate Amount) (Amendment) Order 2013 contained in a draft instrument laid before Parliament on 5th June 2013.

Wew await that Order.

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Help pay for the MP pay increase - 1litregolfeater

Although it goes against instinct and is counter to any form of social justice, paying MPs more could attract more able people to the role, make a change from the shower that have been on offer since I can remember.

It's a pity that politics has attracted such a bunch of twerps and continues to. It's more of a pity that able people have no feeling of responsibility to the country that pays them so well.

Help pay for the MP pay increase - Bromptonaut

All things considered I've some sympathy with idea that £65k or so is not a brilliant salalry for the responsibility etc of being an MP.

However to take a 15% increase while imposing 1% on Nurses etc is taking the wotsit big time. But then again there's never a right time to increase MP pay, that's why expenses became the shambles it was.

Help pay for the MP pay increase - galileo

All things considered I've some sympathy with idea that £65k or so is not a brilliant salalry for the responsibility etc of being an MP.

However to take a 15% increase while imposing 1% on Nurses etc is taking the wotsit big time. But then again there's never a right time to increase MP pay, that's why expenses became the shambles it was.

Much legislation is driven by the EU (carbon emissions, dozens of petty interferences) it is hard to see what responsibility ordinary MPs have.

Also, qualifications whatsoever are required for the job (other than having spent time ingratiating oneself with a political party or trade union).

The USA manages with only 435 representatives, which calls into question why 650 are needed (epecially in view of EU primacy over so many things)

Many MPs were adept at making large sums from expenses, second homes etc and probably still are.

Taxpayers struggling to make ends meet would be more than happy to have £65K and a generous pension to look forward to. If MPs think they can earn more elsewhere, they are welcome to take the Chiltern Hundreds and do so.

Help pay for the MP pay increase - Bromptonaut

Much legislation is driven by the EU (carbon emissions, dozens of petty interferences) it is hard to see what responsibility ordinary MPs have.

Also, qualifications whatsoever are required for the job (other than having spent time ingratiating oneself with a political party or trade union).

The USA manages with only 435 representatives, which calls into question why 650 are needed (epecially in view of EU primacy over so many things)

Many MPs were adept at making large sums from expenses, second homes etc and probably still are.

Taxpayers struggling to make ends meet would be more than happy to have £65K and a generous pension to look forward to. If MPs think they can earn more elsewhere, they are welcome to take the Chiltern Hundreds and do so.

Whatever view one takes of the EU, and I suspect we're in opposite camps, it has relatively little influence on MP's work. In so far as there is EU legistaion there is still scrutiny of it as orders or primary legislation is required to implement. Business for Yesterday for example http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201314/cmagenda/ob130703.pdf shows little EU influence. It is in any event a myth that MPs effectiveness can be measured on the floor of the Commons. The 'heavy lifting' is in constiuency casework etc and that goes on all the time, not just when the House is sitting.

Certainly some are less than well qualified and there are egregious examples in all parties, say Nadine Dorrie, Mike Handcock and Eric Joyce, picking one from each. Most though, including from direct experience incumbent Northampton South MP and his predecessor in the North seat. I've met both through their interest in town's rail service. They're hard working and able corresondents and meeting chairs.

The US, despite its common language, is a very foreign place with a completely different constutution and culture. Realtively few decisions affecting ordinary citizens are made in Congress as so much rests with individual state legislatures.

No longer any money in second homes, the days of subsidised mortgages ended at the last election. Dodgy claimants get no sympathy from their Whips and face rapid de-selection.

There is of course plenty of competition for each vacancy but lowering the pay at least arguably reduces the attraction to any but party placemen over eager to ascend the greasy pole. Or of course the rich who can do it as a sideline.

Edited by Bromptonaut on 04/07/2013 at 14:02

Help pay for the MP pay increase - galileo

Bromptonaut, you make many relevant points, my comments were based on conversations over the last day or so, summarising what the general view appears to be around here (Yorkshire, unemployment 9%+ and further job losses announced weekly).

You can perhaps understand how MPs taking an increase will be viewed.