Big, heavy, thirsty, non-PC....
But reliable and brilliant off road (been there).
They're great IMO.
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what sort of milage for the 3.0 diesel 5 door 2003
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Around 30 mpg plus, depending on use
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The official figure for the 5 door 3.0 D4-D is 31.4mpg (combined cycle).
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which one ?
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the 3 litre diesel 2003 lc4 5 door auto
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Not sure about the diesels, we were in a 4.5 litre V8 petrol :-)
I expect it will be reliable, it's a Toyota afterall.
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I don't know much about the diesel either.
Love the petrol one though. Well equipped, excellent to drive, and seriously capable off-road should you need it. Watch the tyres since a) they're goddam expensive and b) off-road tyres are noisy on-road and on-road tyres are awful off-road. Dual purpose tyres are awful at everything.
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Watch the tyres since a) they're goddam expensive and b) off-road tyres are noisy on-road and on-road tyres are awful off-road. Dual purpose tyres are awful at everything.
I'm presuming that most of your miles are on tarmac but I know you do some off-roading too - what tyres do you use?
I've still got the original Dunlop Grandtreks on the back and I replaced the worn fronts with same. Not much good in (wet) offroad conditions, though I find them OK in the dry. Seem to be OK on-road but I haven't got any real comparisons.
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Pirelli Scorpion in the UK & Bridgestone something-or-others in Chile.
The Scoprions are pretty good onroad, although I've had it sideways more than once. They're not bad offroad, as long as one is a littel restrained they seem to hang on well enough, even in quite substantial mud.
The Bridgestones are horrible on wet, smotth tarmac but pretty indestructible off road.
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OP: is this motor any good?
Well, Land Cruisers and Hilux pickups have become the transport of choice for the UN and most aid agencies (there was a item about a Toyota dealership in Gibraltar that specalises in supplying them on here recently) so they must have got something right.
They're widely used by the farmers and builders of Ireland, neither of whom are known for pampering their vehicles other than normal maintenance, and they seem to go and go and go...
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Its one the wagons of choice in the australian outback. If you choose the wrong wagon there it could cost you your life.
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I know someone with an Amazon, with a 4.2 V8 diesel IIRC, is that right? Anyway around 20mpg.
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Its one the wagons of choice in the australian outback. If you choose the wrong wagon there it could cost you your life. ------------------------------ TourVanMan TM < Ex RF >
Yeah, you can get a lot of tinnies in a Landcruiser!
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yup got it in one
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Whoaa! A lot of mixed up information here because the right question has not been asked. Firstly, UN vehicles are not the same as those on the UK market. I ride in UN spec Land Cruisers nearly every day. The Amazons have different running gear underneath and the engines are the old faithful 4.2 naturally aspirated six cylinder (there is no V8 diesel) while the Prado which is what the questioners seems to have has the old non-turbo 3-litre. In the UK you have turbo Amazons that meet Euro regulations. My experience and that of our drivers is that the non-aspirated 3-litre and 4.2-litre motors both return about 20 mpg, except for one Prado which unfailingly does about 10 mpg and apparently can't be fixed by the local Toyota agent. The newer 3-litre turbo D-4D Prado I hired last year for a mainly fast tarmac trip at an average 65-70 mph returned about 18 mpg. The 4.5V8 petrol Amazon used under similar conditions clocks in at 10-12 mpg according to an accountant I met two weeks ago and who regularly uses one for an 1800 km round trip on Tanzanian tarmac.
In answer to the questioner, Toyota makes very reliable engines (usual caveats about being looked after, except for the non-turbo 4.2 which can be abused heartlessly) and robust vehicles but don't ever consider them economy transport. Those UN vehicles probably have 180-litre fuel tanks for a good reason.
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I've checked, the Amazon I mentioned is a 6cyl (not V8) 4.2 TD, still around 20mpg is not great.
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A farmer mate of the brothers drove a diesel Amazon for a while.
The brother asked him why he always but always had the sheep trailer on behind.
Simple answer, It made NO difference to the fuel economy.
About 20mpg with trailer OR without trailer, and bytimes he needed the trailer.
so he simply kept it hooked on.
But since he was doing a 50 mile round trip twice a day the novelty soon wore off.
and the Amazon moved on to pastures fresh.
Edited by rtj70 on 22/02/2010 at 11:31
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